Exceeding 104 km/h - Who got a ticket this weekend?

[scumdog]

why not do 80 instead?

WELL ...It was the speed limit once a few years ago..when I was a boy.

[Hiflyer]

WELL ...It was the speed limit once a few years ago..when I was a boy.

Why was it increased? (Not a pisstake or anything, just wondering why)

[slofox]

Why was it increased? (Not a pisstake or anything, just wondering why)

It was too slow...

[scumdog]

Why was it increased? (Not a pisstake or anything, just wondering why)

Ixion might help here, I cannot remember.

But it was about '85 it eventually reached 100kph - along with dire warnings about how it would be strctly enforced - which people at the time thought 'fair enough, we're allowed to go faster so we don't mind the enforcing'.

Only now it IS being enforced they DO mind....

[Hiflyer]

It was too slow...

Haha probably,

I doubt they'll have a secpndary "Gixxer Limit" though

Ixion might help here, I cannot remember.

But it was about '85 it eventually reached 100kph - along with dire warnings about how it would be strctly enforced - which people at the time thought 'fair enough, we're allowed to go faster so we don't mind the enforcing'.

Only now it IS being enforced they DO mind....

Can't please everyone I guess.

[Quasievil]

No arrogance to see here folks.Move along move along

Bwaaaahhhh, shut down !

you know what I mean...............dont ya?

[Maha]

Our Caravan does 'Fuckall KPH' so we were ok.

[SPman]

Heading north, from the foot of the Brynderwns at the concrete place to halfway down the hill on the other side. Bastards!

Bastards, indeed - the only part of the trip to Whangarei that's worthwhile......

[ukusa]

Ixion might help here, I cannot remember.

But it was about '85 it eventually reached 100kph - along with dire warnings about how it would be strctly enforced - which people at the time thought 'fair enough, we're allowed to go faster so we don't mind the enforcing'.

Only now it IS being enforced they DO mind....

from memory (fading) it was 60 mph until the fuel crisis in early 70s. It was then dropped to 50 mph, which changed to 80 km/h when metrics came in. Went back up to 100 km/h when powers that be decided it was taking too long to get anywhere. Road congestion probably had a part to play, as it the extra 20 km/h would drop travel times considerably meaning less cars on road.

[Ixion]

Ixion might help here, I cannot remember.

But it was about '85 it eventually reached 100kph - along with dire warnings about how it would be strctly enforced - which people at the time thought 'fair enough, we're allowed to go faster so we don't mind the enforcing'.

Only now it IS being enforced they DO mind....

The history of speed limits :

In 1936 there was no open road speed limit. City speed limits were either 12mph or 30 mph. No specific speed limit for learners. (based on my fathers old 1936 Road Code)

A 50 mph open road speed limit was introduced in the 50s . Probably the 1948 Roads Act. (my 1957 Road Code gives this as the open road limit). And 30 mph open road speed for learner drivers.

This was raised to 55 mph (90 kph) in 1962. And , in 1969 raised to 60 mph (100kph roughly).

By 1967 the learner (now provisional) licence holder was allowed 35 mph (60 kph) on the open road. So todays learners on 70 kph aren't really so badly off

In 1973 the open road limit was dropped back to 50 mph (80 kph) , not for safety reasons but because of a petrol crisis.

In 1985 the limit reverted back to 60 mph . Mainly because the petrol crisis was long gone, and measures such as carless days intended to carry us through it had been abandoned. Almost everyone ignored the 50 mph limit, and as it had been specifically introduced as a fuel crisis measure it was hard to justify its retention.

Since then the only movement has been downward. Most roads are now back to 1948 limits. Not making much progress for all the billions of dollars spent on roads, cars and driver restrictions, are we?

[scumdog]

. Most roads are now back to 1948 limits. Not making much progress for all the billions of dollars spent on roads, cars and driver restrictions, are we?

Gotta allow for all those zillions of extra cars now on the road.

Dunno figures but I was told in 1985 that no. plates starting wth TT would not be introduced until 2002.

Just look when they DID come in.

(i think I had it worked out that by 2002 there were equivalent to three years extra worth of cars on NZ roads.)

If you know what I mean.

[SPman]

Ixion might help here, I cannot remember.

But it was about '85 it eventually reached 100kph - along with dire warnings about how it would be strctly enforced - which people at the time thought 'fair enough, we're allowed to go faster so we don't mind the enforcing'.

Only now it IS being enforced they DO mind....

It was 80 kph because of the fuel restrictions. Then they raised it to 100kph - 'twas OK, coz most vehicles like Austin 1300's and Cortinas and HQ's and such were happy to tootle along at 100kph. Most cars couldn't do much more than 140-150 anyway! On the open road you normally had to going at a reasonable pace (115-120kph, before the John Hops showed a greater than usual interest
Now, a typical European 1.4litre can cruise happily (in Europe) at 140kph and, apart from hitting a brick wall, in greater safety than say, a 3.8 MkII Jag doing the same speed and top out at 190-200kph.
Unfortunately George, Mabel and Hemi, mentally, haven't progressed much beyond the Austin A40/Bedford truck era when anything over 90-100kph was, literally, taking your life into your hands....... The vehicles have improved immensely, the mindsets behind the wheel, haven't.

[ukusa]

The history of speed limits :

In 1936 there was no open road speed limit. City speed limits were either 12mph or 30 mph. No specific speed limit for learners. (based on my fathers old 1936 Road Code)

A 50 mph open road speed limit was introduced in the 50s . Probably the 1948 Roads Act. (my 1957 Road Code gives this as the open road limit. And 30 mph open road speed for learner drivers.

This was raised to 55 mph (90 kph) in 1962. And , in 1969 raised to 60 mph (100kph roughly).

By 1967 the learner (now provisional) licence holder was allowed 35 mph (60 kph) on the open road. So todays learners on 70 kph aren't really so badly off

In 1973 this was dropped back to 50 mph (80 kph) , not for safety reasons but because of a petrol crisis.

In 1985 the limit reverted back to 60 mph . Mainly because the petrol crisis was long gone, and measures such as carless days intened to carry us through it had been abandoned. Almost everyone ignored the 50 mph limit, and as it had been specifically introduced as a fuel crisis measure it was hard to justify its retention.

Since then the only movement has been downward. Most roads are now back to 1948 limits. Not making much progress for all the billions of dollars spent on roads, cars and driver restrictions, are we?

a wealth of knowlendge Ixion. re the 50 mph drop in 1973, I had a feeling it was then & not when carless days were introduced in '79.
I too am amazed where we currently sit with our roads & limits, considering all the technology in cars today. The main reason that numbers killed on our roads is dropping over the decades is technology (disc brakes, better tyres, ABS, steering, suspension, airbags, intrusion beams, crumple zones, ESP, crash tests, minimum standards etc). It has nothing to with the speed limits themselves. I would feel much safer driving in a modern car doing 120 km/h than I would in a 1971 HQ Holden doing 80 km/h.

[BoristheBiter]

Oh for fuck sake get a grip!!

Its the Arseholes who think they have the right to go over the speed limit and the arrogant mentality around THAT which is the problem.

95 kmph on the last weekend given THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE WEEKEND AND THE ENFORCEMENT POLICEY OF THIS WEEKEND IM REFERRING TO

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No you get a grip, just as you have the right to do 95 others have the right to do 100 which is not speeding, what has this weekend got to do with it?
So why do you have more rights than other road users? Its this arrogant behaviour that makes our roads what they are.
I have no problem with people driving slow or fast, depending on what i am driving dictates how fast i go but people just need commom courtesy while driving.

[Quasievil]

No you get a grip, just as you have the right to do 95 others have the right to do 100 which is not speeding, what has this weekend got to do with it?
So why do you have more rights than other road users? Its this arrogant behaviour that makes our roads what they are.
I have no problem with people driving slow or fast, depending on what i am driving dictates how fast i go but people just need commom courtesy while driving.

What has the weekend got to do with it ?
are you for real..............the weekends tolerance for speed was reduced DOWN, if you drive more than 104 kmph you would get a ticket...........do you understand that?? ok I know this will be hard for you so I will do my best to keep it simple. Cars are not precise in their actual speed versus their Speedo indicated speed, infact there can be up to 10% (even more) variation between vehicles actual speeds........still with me? therefore to keep below the offending 104 kmph hour "your getting nicked" area I travelled at 95 kmph for the weekend.

I could have travelled at 100kmph and potentially gone into the ACTUAL speed of 110kmph and got nicked, I ELECTED NOT TO ! as did many people.

No you got that now??