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Tony I was only mentioning the farm ride as its pretty bloody cheap for what you get . I don't think anyone on here is has the misconception that running trail rides is a good way to get rich . Most of us are aware of the amount of time and effort that goes into most of the rides we do, and its much apreciated by those that attend.
50 bucks still seems a rort unles its something exra special.
If I had to pay the prices they pay in the UK for trail rides I would move to a better country.
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Agreed in costs, though to be clear the farm race is covered by full insurance ( it's the bike club insurance policy ), we've got good coverage to cover forest events.
Dept of labour, osh, acc. There are a few starting to make noises I hear.
To the OP, 25-35 up here, 50 is to much for a trail ride IMHO.
The club insurance was way more than 500, part of the race fee will be going towards that.
But Tony is right, the accommodation is basically not costing mike anything and he has no other additional costs, the course was done already by the nields and he just wants an event and to have fun.
The commercial guys have alot tougher road, interesting the time you put in Tony, our last one was one day recce, one day setup, but like 10 guys 4 quads and one was the land owners son/nephew ( 2 farms ), we made jack shit on the ride as only got 40 people, if we had paid anyone it'd have been a loss.
Though a ride on the paddocks is a breeze compared to the trees, that takes a heap of work in there.
$25-$30 is pretty cheap, that's what it was 10 years ago. Price of fuel and insurance are two big expenses that have increased a lot in that time.
browny, why don't you organise your own commercial trail ride? You'll soon see if he's gouging or just trying to limit his losses.
Cheers,
Colin
Originally Posted by Steve McQueen
That's not the same for a lot of us! Especially if you have kids to pay for as well! I know a couple of people I ride with here (plus me) that don't or won't pay $40 and go to the sandpit instead if there is nothing on but a Powers ride on (similar riding). I reckon there'd be quite a few making the same decision.
Ktm boy would probably know if numbers are down when there's a Mr Moto ride on and if there down the same when there's a Powers ride on? Mind you he might not want to let Powers know that if he dropped is price $10 bucks a rider he'd get all us that go to the sandpit instead. LOL!!!!
I wouldn't pay $50! ANd when I was paying for the kids as well I defiantly would go!!! That would be up to $250-300 for a family day out with three kids! Bugger that!!!
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Different Rides have different Cost structures, as KTMboy wrote above the rides we run are Chartiy based, therefore we do not pay for land, so we can run them cheaper, also the fact that it is done as a promotion for the shop means i write off a lot of expenses through the shop, again subsidising the cost for the rider.
the organisers that do it as a job have a completly different set of costs and restrictions to work with,
i do not believe charging $50 for a trail ride makes the guy a rip off merchant, i think that is still very cheap on a world scale, the fact that a lot of work goes unpaid in the running of most motorcycle events subsidises the costs hugely, and that's racing and trail riding,
And also putting the price up is sometimes a business decision, although you get less riders you make a similar amount with less stress, running a 800-1000 rider trail ride is pretty stressful. if you put the price up $10 and make the same amount of money with 400 riders it makes sense.
That would be my thoughts, in some cases these rides will probably use price to limit the amount of riders. Doesn't seem that long ago that trail rides were only $20.00. The arrival of the modern 4 $troke has bought a lot of new riders into the sport of trail riding. If riding is your only sporting outlet it makes things tough for the punter. If you have other sporting interests a $50.00 entry fee saved along with the other expenses can go a loonnng way in other sports.
on the GST thing, id bet that most of the trail ride cash that comes in at these rides doesnt get to see the books- why would you???
sure put some through, but who's to say how many people came and paid what in cash?
my view on whats a fair price is $30 for your average trail, or $40 incl a farm lunch
ill pay more for the likes of a epic event or the tussock buster , as a SHITLOAD of prep is put into these, and theres always heaps of tracks and huge distances to cover. theres no way id be paying more than $1 a km of trail though which some trails seem to expect of you
While $50 might be a bit steep I reckon it is actually pretty cheap entertainment or 5 or 6 hours riding in terms of value for money.
Try going to the movies, out for a decent meal, or a rugby game with decent seats and see how much it costs.
I am also in the camp that is quite happy to see trail ride organisers , whether they be a charity or someone making a business out of putting on trail rides getting a fair return for their effort.
The cheaper the ride the better, so $50 is right up there.
One thing that does piss me off is if you go to a trial ride that is shit, and it's clear that minimum effort was put in. This is not only a waste of money, but valuble time.
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you can expect racing to cost more. theres club supplies to buy- flags etc, first aid to pay for, trophies, prize money at some events, lap scoring- be it on paper or with an electronic system - those AMB electronic lap scoring systems cost about $13000, just for the device that plugs into the computer. you then need to get a computer, generator, and then theres the transponders
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