MAG-NZ launches in New Zealand

[bogan]

Understood...however I still believe that a new level of licensing system needs to be implemented sooner than later.
So sure, maybe not the existing holders but the new applicants...

It's not just bikers that could benefit from a new level of licensing though, all road users would stand to benifit from extra training. Some shocking road users of all types out there.

[DMNTD:Me]

It's not just bikers that could benefit from a new level of licensing though, all road users would stand to benifit from extra training. Some shocking road users of all types out there.

100% agreed...I know better then most about that (dang it) but since this thread is bike related I thought best I only mention motorcyclists so it doesn't turn into a typical KB BS thread re 'cages' and it being everyone else's fault

[Brian d marge]

True, no argument about that but they suffer no consequence from their political actions or affiliations!

Other than the three yearly MMP mock election, where they may get thrown out of a seat and then stroll back in through the party vote back door!

They think that they are untouchable under MMP!

We (motorcyclists) should target Nick Smith personally and really hound him into political oblivion!

If we do it well enough the National party will quickly abandon him in their own interest!

It would also establish motorcyclists as a group not to be fucked with in the future!

One objective, one target, one focus a clear time frame and a united front...I.E. his ACC crimes against us!

We have time to do it by the next election, just focus on "Smith" and nothing else and pound him every day 24/7!

Death by a thousand cuts is still death and we could cut him up good if we really "wanted to", thousands of us!

Cut him out of the mob and do him, that's the way nature does it! The bastard!

I take it you wont be Voting for Mr Slick Dick , innthe next election then

Your post is EXACTLY what should be happening , unfortuantly we need at least 12 000 MORE
here is what happened last time;

National Party	1,053,398	44.93	41	17	58
Labour Party	796,880	33.99	21	22	43
Green Party	157,613	6.72	0	9	9
ACT New Zealand	85,496	3.65	1	4	5
Māori Party	55,980	2.39	5	0	5
Jim Anderton's Progressive	21,241	0.91	1	0	1
United Future	20,497	0.87	1	0	1
New Zealand First Party	95,356	4.07	0	0	0
The Bill and Ben Party	13,016	0.56	0	0	0
Kiwi Party	12,755	0.54	0	0	0
Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party	9,515	0.41	0	0	0
New Zealand Pacific Party	8,640	0.37	0	0	0
Family Party	8,176	0.35	0	0	0
Alliance	1,909	0.08	0	0	0
Democrats for Social Credit	1,208	0.05	0	0	0
Libertarianz	1,176	0.05	0	0	0
Workers Party	932	0.04	0	0	0
RAM - Residents Action Movement	465	0.02	0	0	0
The Republic of New Zealand Party	313	0.01	0	0	0
			70	52	122

basically at the last big rally I heard of , the bikoi ( 5000?? ) the smoke dope party had more people voting for it than was at the bikoi

Even if you add in the stay at home bikers , AND EVERYONE VOTES , there were about 60 000 rego in 2003 ish , thats still maori party level

So you see THERE is NO room for private agendas, EVERYONE , MUST work together ,
No one can afford to say I am out of politics, or it doesn't concern me ( those that do something have every right to feel pissed of towards those that don't ( do anything )

Trouble is as a western culture , its a culture of individuals , on top of that Motorcyclists are the biggest individuals we know ,,,, 60 000 differing opinions doesn't help anyone

The 3 groups that represent motorcyclists , need to sit down , stop pretending they are important or non political ( one group could be non political , but the OTHER MUST BE ) and come up with a very simple plan

We the motorcyclists of NZ will lend out voting block towards any group that can remove Mr slick dick from office ,


Stephen

( Ps, if you borrow the money you must dance to the tune the piper plays )

[Bald Eagle]

The combined voting public didn't have the smarts to know they where being conned when we ended up getting MMP foisted upon us, I doubt the tribe of feral cats called bikers can focus enough to remove a single MP ... but I would love to be proved wrong on that. Go on i dare yah.

[caseye]

I take it you wont be Voting for Mr Slick Dick , innthe next election then

Your post is EXACTLY what should be happening , unfortuantly we need at least 12 000 MORE
here is what happened last time;

National Party	1,053,398	44.93	41	17	58
Labour Party	796,880	33.99	21	22	43
Green Party	157,613	6.72	0	9	9
ACT New Zealand	85,496	3.65	1	4	5
Māori Party	55,980	2.39	5	0	5
Jim Anderton's Progressive	21,241	0.91	1	0	1
United Future	20,497	0.87	1	0	1
New Zealand First Party	95,356	4.07	0	0	0
The Bill and Ben Party	13,016	0.56	0	0	0
Kiwi Party	12,755	0.54	0	0	0
Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party	9,515	0.41	0	0	0
New Zealand Pacific Party	8,640	0.37	0	0	0
Family Party	8,176	0.35	0	0	0
Alliance	1,909	0.08	0	0	0
Democrats for Social Credit	1,208	0.05	0	0	0
Libertarianz	1,176	0.05	0	0	0
Workers Party	932	0.04	0	0	0
RAM - Residents Action Movement	465	0.02	0	0	0
The Republic of New Zealand Party	313	0.01	0	0	0
			70	52	122

basically at the last big rally I heard of , the bikoi ( 5000?? ) the smoke dope party had more people voting for it than was at the bikoi

Even if you add in the stay at home bikers , AND EVERYONE VOTES , there were about 60 000 rego in 2003 ish , thats still maori party level

So you see THERE is NO room for private agendas, EVERYONE , MUST work together ,
No one can afford to say I am out of politics, or it doesn't concern me ( those that do something have every right to feel pissed of towards those that don't ( do anything )

Trouble is as a western culture , its a culture of individuals , on top of that Motorcyclists are the biggest individuals we know ,,,, 60 000 differing opinions doesn't help anyone

The 3 groups that represent motorcyclists , need to sit down , stop pretending they are important or non political ( one group could be non political , but the OTHER MUST BE ) and come up with a very simple plan

We the motorcyclists of NZ will lend out voting block towards any group that can remove Mr slick dick from office ,


Stephen

( Ps, if you borrow the money you must dance to the tune the piper plays )

Coul;dn't agree more, given a chance to get establishe and to canvas our already rapidly ( long may it continue)growing membership we'll be able to put forward to the other groups what we would like to do and of course that we'd like to do it with them , given the chance.
I seriously would argue your attendance figue for the Bikoi, you say (5000?) I believe there were at least 7500 bikes parked at Westpac and another official venue, this does not allow for the many hundreds possibly thousands already in Welly city who walked to parliament from thier places of work.
While the actual number was reportedly somewhere nearer 9-10,000 in parliament grounds even that doesn't detract from yuour earlier and quite correct statement that as a group we are the most individualised bunch of hairy arsed peole out there.
This has cause the already existing groups many headaches trying to decide how to get them to join them.
We thought we'd try the direct approach.Give us twenty bucks and be ready to ride on any given day and we'll see what we can accomplish.
Our commitment is unwavering, we hope simply that those interested in change happening come forward with the same resolve.

[MarkH]

It's not just bikers that could benefit from a new level of licensing though, all road users would stand to benifit from extra training. Some shocking road users of all types out there.

Too fuckin' true, mate!

[Brian d marge]

Coul;dn't agree more, given a chance to get establishe and to canvas our already rapidly ( long may it continue)growing membership we'll be able to put forward to the other groups what we would like to do and of course that we'd like to do it with them , given the chance.
I seriously would argue your attendance figue for the Bikoi, you say (5000?) I believe there were at least 7500 bikes parked at Westpac and another official venue, this does not allow for the many hundreds possibly thousands already in Welly city who walked to parliament from thier places of work.
While the actual number was reportedly somewhere nearer 9-10,000 in parliament grounds even that doesn't detract from yuour earlier and quite correct statement that as a group we are the most individualised bunch of hairy arsed peole out there.
This has cause the already existing groups many headaches trying to decide how to get them to join them.
We thought we'd try the direct approach.Give us twenty bucks and be ready to ride on any given day and we'll see what we can accomplish.
Our commitment is unwavering, we hope simply that those interested in change happening come forward with the same resolve.

A figure ( 5000) was picked up somewhere by me , if it was 10 000 thats great , but that 10 000 needs to happen all the time every time

those clots ( and i have been in chambers ) and they are dumber than a redneck in an oean of stupidty and I doubt they understand or even realize the overall effect of their decision making ( and lack of balls)

Stephen

[caseye]

A figure ( 5000) was picked up somewhere by me , if it was 10 000 thats great , but that 10 000 needs to happen all the time every time

those clots ( and i have been in chambers ) and they are dumber than a redneck in an oean of stupidty and I doubt they understand or even realize the overall effect of their decision making ( and lack of balls)

Stephen

Different organisations depending on their perspective at the time have quoted all sorts of figures, the actual figure is unimportant in the scheme of things.Whats imnportant now is that we go forwards and present a united front to Govt of as many motoricyclists/motorists as we can possibly band together who are in fact keen enough to ride anywhere , anytime to make a point and of course to vote as a group to Oust any MP who thinks their seat may still be safe if they ignore our membership.
Poliies are and have been for many years the New Zealands publics enemy number one when it comes to people who can be trusted.
Balls? politicians? are we talking about the same species?
Cheers for the input.

[kb_SF1]

Just completed the membership process, easy and painless.

Having been on the Bikeoi, and a couple of the protest rides will join you on future ones and charity rides.

My apologies for Sunday a prior family commitment in NP, here's looking at a good turn out.

[NONONO]

Just completed the membership process, easy and painless.

Having been on the Bikeoi, and a couple of the protest rides will join you on future ones and charity rides.

My apologies for Sunday a prior family commitment in NP, here's looking at a good turn out.

Welcome along mate..it's going to be some ride.

[Mom]

A tiny bit of feedback for you all. A quick snapshot of members this morning shows MAG-NZ has members in the following regions...

Auckland
BOP
Canterbury
Hawkes Bay
Manawatu-Wanganui
Nelson
Northland
Otago
Southland
Taranaki
Waitkato

[fliplid]

So, if it aint too personal a question, what is the number signed up to date?

[Mom]

So, if it aint too personal a question, what is the number signed up to date?

I actually cant answer that totally accurately, but there were over 120 last night.

[bogan]

I actually cant answer that totally accurately, but there were over 120 last night.

not bad for a few days eh! I haven't even had a chance to lean on a few mates yet...

[Okey Dokey]

Quite interested to hear your story about how the insurance company doubled your excess, we have an story on our site detailing another member's experience with insurance companies following a claim for protective equipment.

What was the response of the insurance company when you explained that you were performing advanced training to improve your safety. Did they increase your excess overall, or just whilst you were preforming the training?

Sorry, I have only got back onto kb now. The excess increase was only for the day of the track based training. $750 up to $1500. That could definitely discourage some from giving it a go.

The insurance response was initially we won't cover for ANY track training. I phoned again later, got a different person, and it was approved as above. I didn't argue the point, but I did state it was a training specific day with certified instructors, not a track day free for all.