Revolting teachers!

[Robert Taylor]

Lets concentrate on more important things first like reinstating the Aermacchis.

[PrincessBandit]

Sorry explain to me again how money fixes this?

I didn't say that, you are putting words in my mouth.

It was simply to show that for all the "perks" people go on about teachers getting there is another side to it all.

[SVboy]

Doubt it.
Considering the fact that education levels have statistically dropped when teachers income has increased.

Spoken like a person truly unable to grasp the full picture. Perhaps a wee spell as a teach would help enlighten you...obviously we are failing to do so. Then again..could you cope?

[MikeL]

Once upon a time, in a little corner of a planet in a galaxy light-years away, the people enjoyed a reasonable standard of living and were generally happy with the way their society was organised. In particular, they had a good education system that made efficient use of the limited wealth that the country produced. Teachers were not well paid, but nor were most workers, and the difference between the rich and the poor was not all that great so the teachers had no real reason to feel resentful. They were, after all, remunerated at about the same level as a backbencher parliamentarian, and by and large they had the respect of the community and could feel satisfied that they were doing an important and worthwhile job. They could concentrate on the business of imparting skills and knowledge and were not expected to be counsellors, social workers, policemen, assessors, substitute parents or anything else. Those of their clients for whom formal education was not appropriate left at the age of fifteen and made themselves useful in a trade or business.

Then something happened and everything started to change...

Would anyone else care to finish the story?? It might shed some light on current events and go some way to explaining why teachers are so unhappy...

[avgas]

I didn't say that, you are putting words in my mouth.
It was simply to show that for all the "perks" people go on about teachers getting there is another side to it all.

Tis life my dear.
At least you guys have an excuse why your customers act immature. And can pass them on to another when something goes wrong.

Ever tried telling a district council that no amount of stomping their feet is going to fix their problem and they just have to grow up and do some work?
Or to tell a lawyer that late is just not good enough, and you are not going to deal with them.

See Teachers and the rest of the world - we aren't too different. Except if I held my task at ransom, and refused to do them, until I got paid more......I would be sued.

[avgas]

Spoken like a person truly unable to grasp the full picture. Perhaps a wee spell as a teach would help enlighten you...obviously we are failing to do so. Then again..could you cope?

Certainly.
But whats it going to cost me? And when you want more - does this mean everything has to go on hold, while I wait for you to stop demanding?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Revolting teachers!

My teacher at intermediate was revolting ...

[PrincessBandit]

Ever tried telling a district council that no amount of stomping their feet is going to fix their problem and they just have to grow up and do some work?

Haha haha, nah, it's usually the council telling the homeowner that no amount of foot stamping is going to make the job go any faster...


Or to tell a lawyer that late is just not good enough, and you are not going to deal with them.
Um, no problem - find another lawyer. There are plenty of them out there.
See Teachers and the rest of the world - we aren't too different. Except if I held my task at ransom, and refused to do them, until I got paid more......I would be sued.

[avgas]

It has been clear that many have not understood my initial argument.
I have no problem with teachers being paid more. In fact I think everyone has a right to apply for a pay rise.

However, I have one simple question - WHY?

What has significantly changed in teachers lives that requires them to have more money?
Is this a problem money can solve?
Is there nothing that could be changed to make teachers roles easier?

Pay is just compensation - band-aid and panadol solution.
Doesn't fix the problem. Just delays the next demand.

Should teachers get what they want when they stomp their feet and throw their toys out of the cot?
Or should their be a better way?

[gijoe1313]

Great, must be the howling winds - broke up another fight behind a school block! Chased several tardy students back to class ... and on top of this I am running a combined class of module students who are learning how to build and paint miniatures with me, and conducting yr11 catch up course for those who need to submit internal assessments!

Girls doing their beauty routine in class, guys goofing off ... just your atypical last week of the term. Too bad for the seniors they don't realise they have bugger all time left at school!

Ah well, will see how they are next term

[avgas]

Yeah but trust me, turning your back and walking away from a lawyer like that..... not recommended.
Basically paints a big cross on your head, while they load the ammunition into the rifle.

[tamarillo]

Who knows how many weeks official holiday is in teachers contracts - standard 4 I assume. I do feel that if this is the case the other 8 weeks non kids time (minus publics of course) should be at school 8 hr day doing all this extra work we hear about.
As a part time solo dad I get very jeolous of teacher friends having all these holidays off whilst rest of us juggle and even take unpaid leave to cope.

Anyone know?

[gijoe1313]

12 weeks worth, 2 weeks at end of each term. 6 weeks at end of year. And yeup, everyone is welcome to have those if you help join the ranks of the teaching profession!

As for me, I will go and ride and ride and ride as much of that time off as I can! Though sometimes my plans and reality don't match up!

And yeup, we don't call them holidays, but rather mental recuperation!

Oh yeah - you don't hear me complaining about my lot! Sheesh, being at school keeps me in check from causing mayhem outside of it!

[tri boy]

The education system turned to shit when men were kicked out, and school community bottle drives stopped.
Feckin lesso's took over and that was that.
Fact.

[PrincessBandit]

The education system turned to shit when men were kicked out, and school community bottle drives stopped.
Feckin lesso's took over and that was that.
Fact.

It's a shame there aren't loads more men in the teaching profession - both primary and secondary. Good male role models are important for both male and female students.