Mom on Breakfast TV1

[FJRider]

When is the movie coming out??!!

Apparently ... you haven't made it untill you appear on Shortland street ...

[Katman]

The single biggest problem that we need to fix is the "It'll never happen to me" mentality.

That, and the "I don't give a fuck whether my actions impact adversely upon you" attitude.

[StoneY]

how come stoney's not there?

Paul from TVNZ decided we (read BRONZ) are not militant enough to attend, they only wanted 'anti MSL' Motorcycle rep to 'spar' with Gareth

Sensationalist journalism at its best, way to go Breakfast!

[Ocean1]

Returning Riders (bikes are much more powerful)

If the bullshit's repeated often enough then even non-morons can be made to believe it.

According to the numbers that age group is under-represented in the crash stat's. Allegations to the contrary, (by those who actually do know better) ignore the wee fact that there's a deal more of 'em and that their numbers have grown faster than any other group.

The crashingest age group is the under 20's, followed by the under 30's. Why don't we do that Victorian thing, ('cause they know about shit like this apparently) and give all the wee kiddies a step-through until they get to 40 odd.

[FJRider]

That, and the "I don't give a fuck whether my actions impact adversely upon you" attitude.

and little thought is given as to how and why ... when it does ...

[Mom]

Yeah - saw that too. About 3 mins in a pair of hands wandered into shot. Realising there would be photo evidence of the attempted assault - they backed away.

I think they were concerned that my earpiece was falling out at the time. All was under control though, must admit it gave me a bit of a start at the time until I realised what it was. All good stuff.

[Katman]

and little thought is given as to how and why ... when it does ...

We largely find ourselves in the position that we do today because for too long far too many motorcyclists have chosen to ride "however the fuck I like" regardless of the fact that their actions were always going to impact adversely on the rest of us.

The only division that should be happening within motorcycling is that the responsible among us should be telling the idiots among us to pull their fucking heads in.

[FJRider]

We largely find ourselves in the position that we do today because for too long far too many motorcyclists have chosen to ride "however the fuck I like" regardless of the fact that their actions were always going to impact adversely on the rest of us.

The only division that should be happening within motorcycling is that the responsible among us should be telling the idiots among us to pull their fucking heads in.

The "Bad Boy(Girl)" image that the majority of "Joe Public" hold, I see as the reason for motorcyclists bad rep. The few idiots just reinforce this mentality ... and more will try to ..

[wysper]

ACC subsidised safety gear for learners might help too ...

This I like. A good idea indeed.

[Edbear]

I think they were concerned that my earpiece was falling out at the time. All was under control though, must admit it gave me a bit of a start at the time until I realised what it was. All good stuff.

A shame there wasn't the time to elaborate. As stoney said, it was sad that it did appear they wanted a stoush between you and Gareth. I've got nothing against him myself, I do think he cares about the issue. Maybe he wasn't aware of what MAG NZ is all about and doing?

[NinjaNanna]

Paul from TVNZ decided we (read BRONZ) are not militant enough to attend, they only wanted 'anti MSL' Motorcycle rep to 'spar' with Gareth

Sensationalist journalism at its best, way to go Breakfast!

And credit is due to Gareth for shutting that down right from the start, his comment that they didn't ask for MSL - but they now have the job of directing how it is spent effectively squashed any hope TVNZ may have had that this would turn into a shit fight.

I also found it informative that the Levy does not fund its own administration - in my view this is a show of goodwill from ACC and the Government.

[Swoop]

So besides from a $28 increase and a few extra signs and the odd ad campaign probably not much will change

There will be lots of change! Committee’s will be formed, people will sit and talk and bureaucracy will be happy. Hopefully a few shekels will trickle down to the real road users.

the "I don't give a fuck whether my actions impact adversely upon you" attitude.

Well, your attitude has impeded ALL bikers because of the public bellyaching and whining. The bureaucrats have taken all your whining and public howling (despite your personal actions on the roads) and inflicted it upon everyone. Thanks for giving them ammunition to use against us all.

The only division that should be happening within motorcycling is that the responsible among us should be telling the idiots among us to pull their fucking heads in.

We have been telling you to do just that, for ages.

[StoneY]

'we are no responsible for putting the levy in place" (GM)

No it was proposed at the meeting at government the day of the Bikoi - with little grumbles. the Fact that BRONZ etc went on to negotiate with this levy in mind therefore allowing an agreed increase to happen seems a little on the nose!

Get the FACTS straight please.......... the added MSL ammount was purely negotiated by Ulysses. It had NOTHING to do with BRONZ at all.

BRONZ were shut out completely after the 'bullshit' chant until Anna Long Injury prevention Manager involved us in the MSL steering Group.

[NinjaNanna]

For a start she's better than Gareth Morgan.
I can't stand the guy.
Just because he has some money and rides a bike we should all listen to him, What a twat.

Got any ideas on who might be better suited?

It takes a fair amount of intelligence and the ability to see big picture principles as well as attention to detail to make the sort of money that guy has. I'd say he's better equiped than most riders to oversee and help direct how a few million of our dollars is spent. Well better than most I'd say.

[MSTRS:Me]

Get the FACTS straight please.......... the added MSL ammount was purely negotiated by Ulysses. It had NOTHING to do with BRONZ at all.

BRONZ were shut out completely after the 'bullshit' chant until Anna Long Injury prevention Manager involved us in the MSL steering Group.

The fact that Les emerged from that meeting looking a little like he'd had a shit sandwich with Nick the Prick would seem to bear that out. But why did he cease all talk of continuing opposition to any increase? That lack of words seemed very damning to the rest of us...like he'd been bought. Or something.
See why we don't trust anything said around this issue?