Mom on Breakfast TV1

[Katman]

Well, your attitude has impeded ALL bikers because of the public bellyaching and whining. The bureaucrats have taken all your whining and public howling (despite your personal actions on the roads) and inflicted it upon everyone. Thanks for giving them ammunition to use against us all.

Yeah, you're right - it's all my fault.

[DEATH_INC.]

Yeah, you're right - it's all my fault.

No, you got it wrong...it goes 'it's not MY fault'

[YellowDog]

I don't really like GM's presentability.

He doesn't come across well.

But I do think that he raised some important issues over the reasons for Motorcycle accidents.

[PrincessBandit]

... TVNZ decided we (read BRONZ) are not militant enough to attend,...

So Mom was there instead?? chihuahuas of the world unite!!


(from one to another...)

[Nasty]

Get the FACTS straight please.......... the added MSL ammount was purely negotiated by Ulysses. It had NOTHING to do with BRONZ at all.

BRONZ were shut out completely after the 'bullshit' chant until Anna Long Injury prevention Manager involved us in the MSL steering Group.

My facts are straight ... it was proposed in that meeting. Ulysses may have negotiated the $$ dealing ... but bronz did jump on board. MAG stood up and said no to the Levy full stop.

That is the reason they were asked to TVNZ ... BRONZ is on board ... MAG is not ... its not that they didn't want you - they had you in the form of Gareth Morgan the chair of the committee.

[StoneY]

My facts are straight ... it was proposed in that meeting. Ulysses may have negotiated the $$ dealing ... but bronz did jump on board. MAG stood up and said no to the Levy full stop.

That is the reason they were asked to TVNZ ... BRONZ is on board ... MAG is not ... its not that they didn't want you - they had you in the form of Gareth Morgan the chair of the committee.

MAG did not even exist in NZ then so when did they say no? Long after the fact of its creation, and one week after I explained there was NO BUCKET of money to be grabbed.
You cant credit MAG with ANYTHING to do with the negotiations at BIKEOI whatever the AAG and WAG happened to do prior to and on the 17th of November 2009.

Very creative effort tho

[MSTRS:Me]

Kari - have another read of post 45. MAG didn't exist back then. But BRONZ, in the form of Les Mason, was in that initial meeting, on the 17th Nov, while the rest of us stood in the grounds of Bullshit Castle.
It is how Les behaved afterwards that had really distasteful flavour. And since then, one can only speculate as to his absence on KB...

We will see the exact same crap (nasty deals and decisions behind closed doors) with National's proposed changes to the legislation re Foreshore/seabed...

[Nasty]

Kari - have another read of post 45. MAG didn't exist back then. But BRONZ, in the form of Les Mason, was in that initial meeting, on the 17th Nov, while the rest of us stood in the grounds of Bullshit Castle.
It is how Les behaved afterwards that had really distasteful flavour. And since then, one can only speculate as to his absence on KB...

We will see the exact same crap (nasty deals and decisions behind closed doors) with National's proposed changes to the legislation re Foreshore/seabed...

No one said that they exisited then .. sorry to confuse ... One of the founding things for MAG has been No motorcycle Levy - which is why they were invited on tv I presume. didn't credit them with anything - just with forming and one of the platforms being no to the levys - and they have stuck with it so far. You are right about underhanded dealings and i think all of us were partially screwed over.

[BMWST?]

linkety link

[Nasty]

My facts are straight ... it was proposed in that meeting. Ulysses may have negotiated the $$ dealing ... but bronz did jump on board. MAG stood up and said no to the Levy full stop.

That is the reason they were asked to TVNZ ... BRONZ is on board ... MAG is not ... its not that they didn't want you - they had you in the form of Gareth Morgan the chair of the committee.

MAG did not even exist in NZ then so when did they say no? Long after the fact of its creation, and one week after I explained there was NO BUCKET of money to be grabbed.
You cant credit MAG with ANYTHING to do with the negotiations at BIKEOI whatever the AAG and WAG happened to do prior to and on the 17th of November 2009.

Very creative effort tho

I did not credit mag except standing against the levy ... you over read again stoney. it said mag has stood up and is against the levy. there was no bucket of money ... that they exist now and are well enough to get invited onto TV is a credit to them though.

[BMWST?]

Kari - have another read of post 45. MAG didn't exist back then. But BRONZ, in the form of Les Mason, was in that initial meeting, on the 17th Nov, while the rest of us stood in the grounds of Bullshit Castle.
It is how Les behaved afterwards that had really distasteful flavour. And since then, one can only speculate as to his absence on KB...

We will see the exact same crap (nasty deals and decisions behind closed doors) with National's proposed changes to the legislation re Foreshore/seabed...

with accusations like that who would hang around?

[MSTRS:Me]

with accusations like that who would hang around?

What accusation? I said nothing that anyone there didn't see/hear for themselves firsthand. After his rhetoric going in, the capitulation was an ugly thing...

[Usarka]

Sensationalist journalism at its best, way to go Breakfast!

After the comment from Corin to email in if you hate bikers i sent some feedback politely telling them to stick their sensationalist crap up their arse and I'd rather watch two cockroaches humping than fry my brain on eggs with their immature televised gossip column.

[StoneY]

... that they exist now and are well enough to get invited onto TV is a credit to them though.

That I do agree on and Kudos to Anne for making her stand known.

There is still some serious misunderstanding in regards this fund tho, and there lies my intention to ensure that its understood no matter who likes it or hates it.

[BoristheBiter]

Got any ideas on who might be better suited?

It takes a fair amount of intelligence and the ability to see big picture principles as well as attention to detail to make the sort of money that guy has. I'd say he's better equiped than most riders to oversee and help direct how a few million of our dollars is spent. Well better than most I'd say.

Someone who is not famous for being famous, he might be good at making money but he comes across as a bit of a patronizing Muppet. Do what i say cause i made some money.

I think there would be a lot more people suited to the job but it all depends on who/how they are chosen.

I would say Mom for a start but (IMHO) it looks like they want some yes people who will say this is a good idea and a reason why they will continue to charge us shit loads for acc levies.