Setting speed limits - a US perspective

[Katman]

Overtaking....*brainless bullshit*.....issue

Go back to selling ice-creams.

[scumdog]

Except that "tailgating, illegal passing and congestion" aren't really concepts associated with motorcycling.

They still seem to kill a few motorcyclist though...."not associated with motorcycling" eh

[MSTRS:Me]

Except that good advice, road rules, and safe, legal motorcycling aren't really concepts with which I'm associated.

Fixed that for ya...

[trailblazer]

Overtaking law, theory, and practice for bikes are totally different to cars. Illegal passing isn't illegal when you can just slip past a car sharing its lane or taking only 300mm of white line. Enormous power/weight ratio means passing is trivial. Even passing on yellows or even double yellows is completely legal providing they are not crossed - concepts foreign to car drivers.

Why would a motorcycle tailgate any vehicle when he/she can pass so trivially?

Why would a motorcyclist permit a vehicle to tailgate in a dangerous or intimidating fashion when he/she could simply overtake the vehicle in front and dispense with the problem?

All of the above completely deal to the congestion issue.

double yellow lines on the road is the same as a yellow flag on a race track it means no passing and if a police officer see's you doing so you are fucked. Road rules are road rules and it does't matter what you are driving or riding it dosn't matter if its a car bike or truck the road rules are the same for everyone why would motorcycles be any differant. I would like to see someone argue your point with a police officer or a judge when your losing your licence for dangerous driving.

[oneofsix]

double yellow lines on the road is the same as a yellow flag on a race track it means no passing and if a police officer see's you doing so you are fucked. Road rules are road rules and it does't matter what you are driving or riding it dosn't matter if its a car bike or truck the road rules are the same for everyone why would motorcycles be any differant. I would like to see someone argue your point with a police officer or a judge when your losing your licence for dangerous driving.

Sorry but you is wrong. Yellow lines, double or single only the one on your side counts, mean you aren't allowed to cross to the other side to pass. Using your argument there would be no passing in passing lanes.

Passing where roadway marked with no-passing line

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(1) This clause applies if a driver is at or approaching a portion of a roadway where the road controlling authority has, in accordance with any enactment, marked a no-passing line applying to traffic moving in the direction in which the driver is moving.

(2) The driver must not pass or attempt to pass a motor vehicle or an animal-drawn vehicle moving in the same direction within the length of roadway on which the no-passing line is marked until the driver reaches the further end of the no-passing line, unless throughout the passing movement the driver keeps the vehicle wholly to the left of the no-passing line.

[Whynot]

double yellow lines on the road is the same as a yellow flag on a race track it means no passing

No it doesn't.

It means no crossing the yellow line, if you can overtake without crossing the line its perfectly ok.

[Grubber]

double yellow lines on the road is the same as a yellow flag on a race track it means no passing and if a police officer see's you doing so you are fucked. Road rules are road rules and it does't matter what you are driving or riding it dosn't matter if its a car bike or truck the road rules are the same for everyone why would motorcycles be any differant. I would like to see someone argue your point with a police officer or a judge when your losing your licence for dangerous driving.

I can relate to this. I was given a ticket for passing on a double yellow that i didn't cross. It's illegal...
Just for the record...i knew it was before i did it too.

[MSTRS:Me]

I can relate to this. I was given a ticket for passing on a double yellow that i didn't cross. It's illegal...
Just for the record...i knew it was before i did it too.

Could depend on individual circumstances. And the wording on the ticket. Are you sure you weren't ticketed for 'unsafe passing'?
It is not illegal, per se, to pass another vehicle, if you don't touch or cross the yellow line.

[onearmedbandit]

OMFG, the village idiot is back. Fuck...

He's a lot dumber than he sounds

Even though that seems virtually impossible, I have to agree.

[onearmedbandit]

I have spoken to a Police officer about this issue and his reply was "its ok because people traveling at that speed dont cause accidents"

This is the bit I'm struggling to believe. And even if it is true, one cops opinion does not mean the entire forces opinion.

[trailblazer]

I can relate to this. I was given a ticket for passing on a double yellow that i didn't cross. It's illegal...
Just for the record...i knew it was before i did it too.

i have a work mate that has been ticketed for this exact thing while i was following him and he couldn't get out of it even when it went to court. He lost his licence for demerit points as a result of this ticket.

[MSTRS:Me]

i have a work mate that has been ticketed for this exact thing while i was following him and he couldn't get out of it even when it went to court. He lost his licence for demerit points as a result of this ticket.

Then, either he did cross the line, or the cop lied or his lawyer was feckin useless...

The road code states http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...g/passing.html. Note the picture showing the blue car passing the orange - within the same lane.

Could it be a 'grey' area...the rules do state 'where there is room for two vehicles'....we all know that officially, motorcycles don't count as a vehicle (except for offences, of course)...so maybe the lane was too narrow for two cars side-by-side.

[Katman]

Note the picture showing the blue car passing the red - within the same lane.

I hate to think of the carnage that would ensue if it became widely known amongst car drivers that that passing manouevre is legal.

Do you seriously want car drivers legally muscling past motorcyclists simply because they believe there's room for them and the motorcyclist within that lane?

[oneofsix]

I hate to think of the carnage that would ensue if it became widely known amongst car drivers that that passing manouevre is legal.

Do you seriously want car drivers legally muscling past motorcyclists simply because they believe there's room for them and the motorcyclist within that lane?

I've had it happen a couple of times, especial when i had the yellow target hanging off the number plate. Funny enough those drivers weren't a problem, gave me plenty of room and were watching out for me. They had at least seen me

[MSTRS:Me]

I hate to think of the carnage that would ensue if it became widely known amongst car drivers that that passing manouevre is legal.

Do you seriously want car drivers legally muscling past motorcyclists simply because they believe there's room for them and the motorcyclist within that lane?

If the motorcyclist wants to sit well to the left...then they invite just that.

The thing is - it's legal, it's in the road code, and every motorist has the right to do it.