Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council (Ex Motorcycle Safety Levy Establishment Group)

**bogan** · 2nd March 2011, 09:54

Originally Posted by riffer

As much as I distrust politicians I'm surprised to hear this because as recently as two weeks ago I've heard different.

There's definitely nothing regarding a turnaround of policy on this on the Labour website.

Give me a few days - I'll work to get some information from the ACC spokesperson regarding clarification on this issue.

Yeh, unfortunately they do lie a lot. I guess the easiest way to estimate the accuracy, is whether they will get more good publicity that they can cash in for votes by saying they will do something, or actually doing it. From what I've seen labour is happy to put the boot in when citizens are angry at national, but I'd be very surprised to see them actually reverse nationals ACC levy policies, maybe they will put a halt to, or reverse the privatisation bit though.

But if you can get an iron clad promise out of them, that'd be great, would certainly election time a bit more interesting!

**StoneY** · 2nd March 2011, 10:21

Originally Posted by NONONO

MrKiwi?
Erm.....Hello?......MrKiwi?

Originally Posted by Mom

He is off taking advice

No, got that wrong. He is off advising the communication committee that they need to formulate a response. No doubt we should get one next week. Afterall, the question has been asked tonight and they have to "consider" their response via their communications approved channel. Oh wait, it may take 2 weeks :waiting:

:waiting: seems to be MIA So I will settle for

No actually he has a JOB......... like some of the rest of us, and KB is a trap he has had fair warning about now.

Speculate all you like, until you meet the man in person, try not to be so freaking judgmetal

I am having coffee with him tomorrow.
The guy tries to give you all a bit of an idea who he is, where he stands, and as usual the ignorant and misinformed make it very hard for the very simple truth to show through the clouds of inuendo and suspicion

**Smifffy** · 2nd March 2011, 10:21

Originally Posted by Eyegasm

+1, but it is good for a laugh first thing in the morning.

Posted 21:19

Then 21:52

Hahahahahaaaaa....

Do you two expect that everyone will be on kiwibiker 24/7??

Honestly? 9pm at night? checking to see what someone is having a bitch about?
This is pure gold.

I'll come back tomorrow morning to see your responses as some of us have lives that exist outside of this website.

Actually during the intervening time his name was shown at the bottom as viewing this thread. Perhaps he went off and left his browser on the page so he would know where he was in the morning?

Perhaps he was consulting?

**StoneY** · 2nd March 2011, 10:23

Originally Posted by Smifffy

Actually during the intervening time his name was shown at the bottom as viewing this thread. Perhaps he went off and left his browser on the page so he would know where he was in the morning?

Perhaps he was consulting?

Read post above.

You lot need to get laid................. there is life outside Kiwibiker after all.

**Big Dave** · 2nd March 2011, 10:26

Originally Posted by StoneY

Read post above.

You lot need to get laid................. there is life outside Kiwibiker after all.

And the 'issues' are a whole lot different.

**Smifffy** · 2nd March 2011, 10:30

Originally Posted by StoneY

No actually he has a JOB......... like some of the rest of us, and KB is a trap he has had fair warning about now.

Speculate all you like, until you meet the man in person, try not to be so freaking judgmetal

I am having coffee with him tomorrow.
The guy tries to give you all a bit of an idea who he is, where he stands, and as usual the ignorant and misinformed make it very hard for the very simple truth to show through the clouds of inuendo and suspicion

A bit of an idea who he is?

Don't make me laugh; he hasn't even introduced himself, has had everybody guessing, answered the best guess evasively and has gone back and changed posts "to be more conciliatory" (politically correct to the rest of us).

The innuendo all started with him. All he has told us is that everybody, including the AA is against him. From this performance it's not difficult to see why.

Is it any wonder people are suspicious?

I have a job too, and I would also like to see motorcycle safety improved in a clear and cohesive manner.

I might trust him when he puts something on the table and follows it through. Until then he is just another shadowy ministerial appointed bureaucrat.

**Smifffy** · 2nd March 2011, 10:32

Originally Posted by Smifffy

A bit of an idea who he is?

Don't make me laugh; he hasn't even introduced himself, has had everybody guessing, answered the best guess evasively and has gone back and changed posts "to be more conciliatory" (politically correct to the rest of us).

The innuendo all started with him. All he has told us is that everybody, including the AA is against him. From this performance it's not difficult to see why.

Is it any wonder people are suspicious?

I have a job too, and I would also like to see motorcycle safety improved in a clear and cohesive manner.

I might trust him when he puts something on the table and follows it through. Until then he is just another shadowy ministerial appointed bureaucrat.

For the record, I thought StoneY did a pretty good job of putting things on the table, but that was rapidly undermined by somebody 'having a word'.

Still nothing from the Communications working group then?

**MrKiwi** · 2nd March 2011, 10:38

I'm still here although very busy, haven't read all the comments and won't until later in the week.

I've a few other things I am unhappy about that I need to focus on for a few days and then I hope to hop on my bike and ride it for a few days. I'll be back.

**MrKiwi** · 2nd March 2011, 10:40

should read I'll be back to answer some questions...

**Smifffy** · 2nd March 2011, 10:42

Originally Posted by MrKiwi

I'm still here although very busy, haven't read all the comments and won't until later in the week.

I've a few other things I am unhappy about that I need to focus on for a few days and then I hope to hop on my bike and ride it for a few days. I'll be back.

Ride safe.

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd March 2011, 10:57

Originally Posted by MrKiwi

should read I'll be back to answer some questions...

It's really simple....

Tell us the truth.
Nothing more. Nothing less.

**Smifffy** · 2nd March 2011, 11:04

Originally Posted by MSTRS

It's really simple....

Tell us the truth.
Nothing more. Nothing less.

That would breach the communication protocol, citizen Winston Smith, 6079.

**riffer** · 2nd March 2011, 11:10

Originally Posted by Smifffy

That would breach the communication protocol, citizen Winston Smith, 6079.

**avgas** · 2nd March 2011, 12:00

Originally Posted by Katman

Nick Smith must be laughing his arse off at the moment watching all this constant bickering.
A conspiracy theorist might almost imagine he'd planned it that way.

An appointed committee, with a almost blank cheque book, and an investment chairperson.

Who needs conspiracy? Reality is scary enough.

I have to admit that McSAC is a cute name to call something that has us all by the balls.