Knock yourself out

[Maha]

it was pretty dodgy... if i had not heard the Ducati i would've pulled left as the guy overtaking me wasnt giving me that much room - im not used to having to check my left mirror before moving within my own lane... but you might be right, im sure the ducati guy had a plan B if i started to move over (e.g. the ditch)

The seasoned and well travelled bikers right behind you were having the same thoughts..
Where is Knobsville anyway?

[Maha]

yeh, have to agree, when on my first group ride, I guess I was going a little slow or something, cause a rider undertook me, open road speed too, gave me a helluva fright, wasn't expecting it. talk about bloody dangerous!

I now check both mirrors when group riding, and if a rider is looking to pass, I move left it stops any thought of undertaking.

been passed on blind corners too, by riders, when I was driving a cage, not sure what the answer is to stop it, but as sure as eggs, bike riding is a great leveler, and soon or later this behavior will creep up, and bite them on the butt.

First and only time it happened to me, three of us were riding together, passing a three car group. I looked at my mirrors and could the ZX9 coming also. Pulled back into the lane and moved to the left and fuck me, there was the third bike in my left mirror, he had passed all three cars on the inside. The first thing I did when we got to Kopu was I walked up to him and told he in no uncertain terms how I felt about that little trick. I dont give a shit who you are, if you wanna act like a cock, knock yourself out, but not around me.

[Blackshear]

Good on ya overstayer, I hope the Duc wasn't that kind you are awfully fond of

Has anyone here played Road rash?

[MadDuck]

Where is Knobsville anyway?

Must be just past Wellsford I am guessing.

As I watched this unfold in front of me I just remember thinking....did I just see that? I have seen some dumb shit on the roads before but that one goes to the top of the list!

[over5tayer]

Ssssshhhhhh -don't admit that, you'll have Katman on your back.

dont get me wrong, i always check my mirrors (sometimes more than i should) but in a spur of the moment 'should i move left to give this guy some more room', it didnt cross my mind that there would be another guy about to undertake me. Something i found hard about being in a group is that when you look back its hard to decipher between bikes that are part of the group and ones that have just over/under-taken some of the riders and are sitting in the middle of the group.

i think im just not used to being overtaken in general

[Ducky848]

Shit, its freaky enough getting undertaken on a racetrack where it can be expected.

Actually, I'm guilty of doing it once on a group ride to a fellow KB'er a while back when the pace went a bit silly (mid corner, even worse), I've grown up a bit since then...

[pzkpfw]

dont get me wrong, i always check my mirrors (sometimes more than i should) but in a spur of the moment 'should i move left to give this guy some more room', it didnt cross my mind that there would be another guy about to undertake me. Something i found hard about being in a group is that when you look back its hard to decipher between bikes that are part of the group and ones that have just over/under-taken some of the riders and are sitting in the middle of the group.

i think im just not used to being overtaken in general

It's (part of) the same reason we should not ride in the left shoulder of the road (also, it's illegal). I see a few bikes do that in the morning, though, instead of lane splitting. Any car could suddenly decide to dive in there to asnwer a phone call or whatever.

It's all well and good to think were all perfect (on bike or in car) and we'll check our mirrors perfectly every time, but we're not. And the plain fact is, you just don't expect someone on your left in some situations.

(Is this also why on a British motorway you can't use the left lane to pass someone in the right lane?)

[Mom]

I watched it all unfold ahead of me, I was astounded that fellow riders could treat others with the total disregard this lot did. Not only that, the way they dogged the riders in front of them had to be seen to be believed. Very intimidating and likely to produce a panic reaction from the bike infront.

There was no mistaking what our group was all about, there were pink jackets and a 250 cc machine amongst us. This lot came up to us at a hell o f a rate of knots and did not look like slowing for anything. There are lots of easy overtake places on SH16, you dont have endanger your own and others lives showing everyone how small your penis is.

[Blackshear]

a 250 cc machine amongst us.

Some people have to be put in their place.

Jokes aside, must just be a timely reminder that you are invisible.
That, and fucking bikers are a pain in the ass...

[Maha]

Some people have to be put in their place.

Jokes aside, must just be a timely reminder that you are invisible.
That, and fucking bikers are a pain in the ass...

Another thing happened yesterday which involved a car...
This woman was approaching me in the opposite lane, she also had two cyclists to contend with in her lane, so she opted to cross the center line into my lane to avoid or pass the cyclists. They were in her way, not mine. I wondered what she would have done if I driving a 40 ton logging truck?...

[hellokitty]

I watched it all unfold ahead of me, I was astounded that fellow riders could treat others with the total disregard this lot did. Not only that, the way they dogged the riders in front of them had to be seen to be believed. Very intimidating and likely to produce a panic reaction from the bike infront.

There was no mistaking what our group was all about, there were pink jackets and a 250 cc machine amongst us. This lot came up to us at a hell o f a rate of knots and did not look like slowing for anything. There are lots of easy overtake places on SH16, you dont have endanger your own and others lives showing everyone how small your penis is.

I was constantly checking my mirrors and was shocked how quickly these fucktards were on top of us. I got the wobbles a bit after that, made me quite unsettled and then of course I got that dam wasp in my visor.
Maybe they didn't see me? I know hot pink is a very subtle colour

[Spearfish]

at least 10 characters.

[blackdog]

Another thing happened yesterday which involved a car...
This woman was approaching me in the opposite lane, she also had two cyclists to contend with in her lane, so she opted to cross the center line into my lane to avoid or pass the cyclists. They were in her way, not mine. I wondered what she would have done if I driving a 40 ton logging truck?...

Well, my 20 tons of truck was no deterrent to people completely failing to give way to me today. twice. on the second occasion if i had been fully loaded i would have had a nice new bmw hood ornament.

[blackdog]

And here is an unwelcome addition to my previous post. This afternoon I almost caused a bike accident, but it was totally the rider at fault.

To the gentleman riding his black BMW, and the cruiser and 'L' plater following him I have the following advice. DO NOT under ANY circumstances, pass traffic on the inside (undertake).

A queue of cars was forming down the esplanade in Petone around 4.30 this afternoon. Being the considerate driver I am, I flashed a driver into the traffic from a side street. This was while the road was a single lane only. At the same time, unbeknownst to me, I was about to be undertaken by the aforementioned riders. The driver pulling out did not see you, and by the smoke from your locked rear wheel I assume you didn't see him either.

If you had been passing traffic on the right-hand side, I would have seen you, and moved over for you to pass legally. If someone was going to pull into your path I would have indicated right to warn you.

I don't know how to stress this enough. Passing a line of traffic on the inside is NEVER acceptable.

You have also taught the young 'L' plater following you a very bad habit. I hope he lives long enough to graduate to the next stage of his license.

As an aside, in exactly the same circumstances, a rider with a 2 day old R1 wrote it off in the Wairarapa when I was working at the bike shop. Screaming up the inside of stalled traffic, and a courteous driver let someone out of a driveway directly into his path. This accident was totally preventable and completely the riders fault, as it would have been if Mr Beemer had crashed today.

THINK please people.

[yachtie10]

And here is an unwelcome addition to my previous post. This afternoon I almost caused a bike accident, but it was totally the rider at fault.

To the gentleman riding his black BMW, and the cruiser and 'L' plater following him I have the following advice. DO NOT under ANY circumstances, pass traffic on the inside (undertake).

A queue of cars was forming down the esplanade in Petone around 4.30 this afternoon. Being the considerate driver I am, I flashed a driver into the traffic from a side street. This was while the road was a single lane only. At the same time, unbeknownst to me, I was about to be undertaken by the aforementioned riders. The driver pulling out did not see you, and by the smoke from your locked rear wheel I assume you didn't see him either.

If you had been passing traffic on the right-hand side, I would have seen you, and moved over for you to pass legally. If someone was going to pull into your path I would have indicated right to warn you.

I don't know how to stress this enough. Passing a line of traffic on the inside is NEVER acceptable.

You have also taught the young 'L' plater following you a very bad habit. I hope he lives long enough to graduate to the next stage of his license.

As an aside, in exactly the same circumstances, a rider with a 2 day old R1 wrote it off in the Wairarapa when I was working at the bike shop. Screaming up the inside of stalled traffic, and a courteous driver let someone out of a driveway directly into his path. This accident was totally preventable and completely the riders fault, as it would have been if Mr Beemer had crashed today.

THINK please people.

while I appreciate your opinion

If a cyclist was coming up undertaking you would you notice and would you still flash traffic through.
The car that moved through on your flashing headlights still has to give way to all oncoming traffic or am I missing something