XBox or PS?

[racefactory]

Forza is enough reason to get a 360. Gt5 is just shit, I was so looking forward to it... a real failure.

[SMOKEU]

Gaming consoles are shit. They're just toys, if you want to do some gaming then build up a proper gaming computer so you're not stuck playing crappy console ports all day with their low resolutions and shitty graphics.

[Scuba_Steve]

The 360 can be made into a media server as well can't it?

Yea kinda, but nowhere near as good

Gaming consoles are shit. They're just toys, if you want to do some gaming then build up a proper gaming computer so you're not stuck playing crappy console ports all day with their low resolutions and shitty graphics.

But instead stuck with driver updates, incompatibilities, high cost of ownership, hackers, no exceptional exclusives, less multi-platform games, ever increasing DRM's & their problems etc, etc.

Been there done that I'll stick to console gaming thank you very much mr PC fanboy man

[SMOKEU]

Yea kinda, but nowhere near as good


But instead stuck with driver updates, incompatibilities, high cost of ownership, hackers, no exceptional exclusives, less multi-platform games, ever increasing DRM's & their problems etc, etc.

Been there done that I'll stick to console gaming thank you very much mr PC fanboy man

Just my video card alone is worth more than a PS3 or Xbox 360, there is no console that has anywhere near the power of a decent gaming computer.

Once you've played Crysis or BF BC2 on a good PC you'll see the difference is like night and day compared to the consoles.

Oh, and the consoles are still stuck in the DX9 era.

[Kendog]

Just my video card alone is worth more than a PS3 or Xbox 360, there is no console that has anywhere near the power of a decent gaming computer.

Once you've played Crysis or BF BC2 on a good PC you'll see the difference is like night and day compared to the consoles.

Oh, and the consoles are still stuck in the DX9 era.

As you point out PC gaming is expensive, that's one of the main reasons I converted to console.

[SMOKEU]

As you point out PC gaming is expensive, that's one of the main reasons I converted to console.

Oh yes, it's very expensive. You're looking at $2.5K+ for a decent one.

One of the bonuses with PC gaming is that games are very easily pirated, it's just a matter of downloading a torrent to get the games for free.

However, online games can't really be pirated.

[Scuba_Steve]

Just my video card alone is worth more than a PS3 or Xbox 360, there is no console that has anywhere near the power of a decent gaming computer.

Once you've played Crysis or BF BC2 on a good PC you'll see the difference is like night and day compared to the consoles.

Oh, and the consoles are still stuck in the DX9 era.

I have played Crysis maxed out & yes it looks pretty, but you do know MGS4 was rated better GFX ay? and you also know the PC needs to be about 4x-10x as powerful to render the same GFX as a console (because of DirectX). Console games can have lots of different looking things on screen PC can only have lots of the same looking things on screen (as below)

From AMD/ATi
On consoles, you can draw maybe 10,000 or 20,000 chunks of geometry in a frame, and you can do that at 30-60fps. On a PC, you can't typically draw more than 2-3,000 without getting into trouble with performance and certainly a maximum amount of 5,000, and that's quite surprising - the PC can actually show you only a tenth of the performance

But that aside yes the PC can far out upscale the GFX of the console.

One of the bonuses with PC gaming is that games are very easily pirated, it's just a matter of downloading a torrent to get the games for free.

even with the "backup" option I found upgrading the HW all the time (& really only mid-range HW too) cost bout the same as buying a console & all the games at the end of the day, & at-least with console I was guaranteed it would work & look decent, no driver problems or incompatibilities & online play has far less to no hackers which makes playing online a hell of a lot more fun too

[blackdog]

PS3

MGS and Asassins Creed.

yeah!

[sil3nt]

PS3

MGS and Asassins Creed.

yeah!

Can't really argue with this! Fantastic games. Felt a bit let down by the second Assassins Creed but the first one was awesome. Haven't got around to playing the latest one.

Metal Gear Solid is a must play. Skip the videos if you want to finish the game before you die of old age though.

[SMOKEU]

I have played Crysis maxed out & yes it looks pretty, but you do know MGS4 was rated better GFX ay? and you also know the PC needs to be about 4x-10x as powerful to render the same GFX as a console (because of DirectX). Console games can have lots of different looking things on screen PC can only have lots of the same looking things on screen (as below)

From AMD/ATi
On consoles, you can draw maybe 10,000 or 20,000 chunks of geometry in a frame, and you can do that at 30-60fps. On a PC, you can't typically draw more than 2-3,000 without getting into trouble with performance and certainly a maximum amount of 5,000, and that's quite surprising - the PC can actually show you only a tenth of the performance

But that aside yes the PC can far out upscale the GFX of the console.



even with the "backup" option I found upgrading the HW all the time (& really only mid-range HW too) cost bout the same as buying a console & all the games at the end of the day, & at-least with console I was guaranteed it would work & look decent, no driver problems or incompatibilities & online play has far less to no hackers which makes playing online a hell of a lot more fun too

In saying that, you're still limited to a low resolution (720p) on a console. Yes, you can upscale the resolution to 1080p, but in that case it's still only really 720p.

I haven't run into driver issues for a very long time, even with the notoriously bad AMD GPU drivers.

Then again, on a PC you don't have to upgrade all that often because as long as you get a decent processor, that should last 3 years and it's cheap and easy to add another GPU in Crossfire/SLI.

But as far as the eye candy is concerned, there is just no way a console can compare with a good PC.

Check this thread out here about the original Crysis http://www.freakygaming.com/pc/actio...omparison.html

PS - FPS suck when you're using a game controller!

[onearmedbandit]

PS3 is 1080P.

And GT5 rocks.

[Elysium]

In saying that, you're still limited to a low resolution (720p) on a console. Yes, you can upscale the resolution to 1080p, but in that case it's still only really 720p.

I haven't run into driver issues for a very long time, even with the notoriously bad AMD GPU drivers.

Then again, on a PC you don't have to upgrade all that often because as long as you get a decent processor, that should last 3 years and it's cheap and easy to add another GPU in Crossfire/SLI.

But as far as the eye candy is concerned, there is just no way a console can compare with a good PC.

Check this thread out here about the original Crysis http://www.freakygaming.com/pc/actio...omparison.html

PS - FPS suck when you're using a game controller!

Like game developers in the day, I was pro PC. But like me they realised it was easier, cheaper and more convenient to build software around the consoles. Problem with PC's is they're not the same as everyone's computer is differant.

[Sable]

You can build an extremely decent gaming computer for 1.7k. I know I did. Having used and lived with both and owned neither, and ignoring the respective exclusive games, which both consoles have equivalents for, the PS3 is a vastly superior piece of hardware. Add to that it's almost inaudible compared to the xBox and no red ring of death (the xBox has a very bad reputation for hardware failure).

[SMOKEU]

You can build an extremely decent gaming computer for 1.7k. I know I did.

For that price you'd have to go without the i7 and SSD...

Don't forget the RAID1 setup either.

[onearmedbandit]

Didn't take long for the PC guys to show up in a thread that has no relevance to them lol. Yes yes the graphics etc etc are far superior on a decent PC. And that's reflected in the price. For good old-fashioned easy fun you can't beat a console. Put in game disc and play. Simple. No updating drivers, fine tuning settings, closing background applications. No hassles setting up a network. I've had a high end rig (at the time) and sure it was great, but sometimes they are just too involved.

Anyway, like I said this has no relevance. He's asking about consoles, not PC's. It's like someone asking what bike to get and someone saying he should get himself a car as they have a roof, air-cond, a stereo and comfier seats.