Who will win the 2011 election?

[oldrider]

And there I was thinking we'd want more wealthy innovators to come live here, silly me. Perhaps we should be courting the "investors with low standards" demographic.

He will be going back to Europe, if it makes any difference. Possibly stopping in SE Asia to start up some businesses on the way.

Rich people are not the problem, the problem is the negative way the envious and have nots think! ( unfortunately, they are the majority)

All you need to know about getting rich! http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0...tting.Rich.pdf

[Banditbandit]

No, I agree with you, I just dont think people are that ignorant anymore and the inbreds are dying out thats why Labour and the looney left are loosing in the polls

Oh? In the past it has been the ruling classes who are inbred ... Just look at the royal houses of Europe ...

The working class breed like rabbits with anyone who will hold still ... and therefore spread the genes around more

That would suggest that it is the National supporters who are inbred ... not Labour supporters

[Quasievil]

Oh? In the past it has been the ruling classes who are inbred ... Just look at the royal houses of Europe ...

The working class breed like rabbits with anyone who will hold still ... and therefore spread the genes around more

That would suggest that it is the National supporters who are inbred ... not Labour supporters

1/ Give me some examples of these houses in Europe ?
2/ Have you seen deliverance.......its the same in most labour strongholds you know, labours new theme song follows



I do like your inference that national voters are the rulers tho, that's good and correct, not that im voting National of course

Come back to the St century dude

[Oscar]

Oh? In the past it has been the ruling classes who are inbred ... Just look at the royal houses of Europe ...

The working class breed like rabbits with anyone who will hold still ... and therefore spread the genes around more

That would suggest that it is the National supporters who are inbred ... not Labour supporters

Labour supporters may not be inbred, but they do suffer from Tax Payer Induced Reproduction - put them on a benefit and they bred...

[admenk]

1/ Give me some examples of these houses in Europe ?

I think the most usually quoted example is the widespread Haemophilia in European royalty due to their habit of inter marriage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haemoph...ropean_royalty - the gospel according to Wikipedia !!

[Oscar]

I think the most usually quoted example is the widespread Haemophilia in European royalty due to their habit of inter marriage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haemoph...ropean_royalty - the gospel according to Wikipedia !!

The fact that the Haemophilia in European Royalty was a result of inter-marriage ‎between families doesn't prove the claim that they were inbred. All of those suffering from the ‎disease were direct decedents of Victoria, the gene would have been passed on no matter who they married.‎‎

[Banditbandit]

The fact that the Haemophilia in European Royalty was a result of inter-marriage ‎between families doesn't prove the claim that they were inbred. All of those suffering from the ‎disease were direct decedents of Victoria, the gene would have been passed on no matter who they married.‎‎

That's a misunderstanding of the gene - it needs a double ressessive (I think) so it's likely that all her descendents carry the gene but don't have haemophilia ... it takes both partners - but the silly bastards did marry close relations ...

Look at WW1 - a war between cousins .. (at least it wasn't a marriage between cousins)

[Oscar]

That's a misunderstanding of the gene - it needs a double ressessive (I think) so it's likely that all her descendents carry the gene but don't have haemophilia ... it takes both partners - but the silly bastards did marry close relations ...

Look at WW1 - a war between cousins .. (at least it wasn't a marriage between cousins)

Gene misunderstanding or not (and I was referring to the fact that the disease was going to appear at some stage no matter who they married, royalty or commoner), it doesn't support your "inbred" claim, and neither does a war between cousins.

[rainman]

Thought as much, your ramblings and abuse towards me are about as pointless as your shallow and failing politics.

Or maybe the time economics of arguing with a reflexively anti-green, anti-science bigoted ideologue who thinks John Key is competent because he has a B Comm are just not that positively prospective...

his choice to come his choice to leave.

Perhaps it was his sanctimonious attitude thats the problem ...............CLEARLY !!

You must be a real hit with your customers. Here's a fresh thought - if you want to develop NZ into something other than an indentured agricultural backwater you need people like him a helluva lot more than he needs you. Perhaps developing our appeal to the intelligent and wealthy might just be a good investment.

it’s none of it home made.

I agree there are some useless imports about the place too, but that's a bold call indeed.

Rich people are not the problem, the problem is the negative way the envious and have nots think! ( unfortunately, they are the majority)

Might want to think that one all the way through to the end...

All you need to know about getting rich!

Oooh, hang on, you actually buy that transcendentalist positivism stuff? I suspect I'm too much of a cynic. I'll give it a proper read though, I have a flight down country in my near future. I'll also look at the rest of the library, some of it is potentially interesting.

I'm a bit surprised at you though, posting socialist works here on KB... That could get you put on the shit list pretty quickly!

[Ocean1]

Come on, get it right - I'm a useless pom but not a senior manager

Chicken out at the pre-frontal lobotomy?

[Quasievil]

You must be a real hit with your customers. Here's a fresh thought - if you want to develop NZ into something other than an indentured agricultural backwater you need people like him a helluva lot more than he needs you. Perhaps developing our appeal to the intelligent and wealthy might just be a good investment.

Yeah I am even after 8 years thanks.

there you go talking about "HIM" again, whoever this superior being is.

[oldrider]

I'm a bit surprised at you though, posting socialist works here on KB... That could get you put on the shit list pretty quickly!

I didn't actually say "I" am not a socialist, I said I dislike most of them and what socialism does to people!

I have posted socialist works before! (Woodhouse ACC report, I support the original intent)

I should be afraid of some shit list? ... All my life it has only been the depth that varied!

I will read almost anything and make up my own mind what I actually choose to believe!

I believe NZ is a socialist state and is far too left of centre, because the majority demand it therefore governments pander to it to curry votes!

IMHO, duplicity is an inbred factor within NZ society but there are still some wonderful trustworthy "individuals" here despite that!

Most of the party loyal don't have a clue what their party stands for, they just stick with them like they do with their local rugby club!

(Well you gotta don't yah! .... Another round? Oi, your shout!)

[SPman]

I think it is summed up quite well here

But its also a reminder that politics isn't just about policy. People have all sorts of different reasons for favouring one party over another. For example, trust and likeability obviously come into it. And it speaks volumes about Phil Goff that he loses the competition over those values to a banker.
But the core message here is that Labour needs to up its game. And if they don't or can't, then they have no-one but themselves to blame for the inevitable defeat.
(Meanwhile, when in two years time people complaining about National selling everything that isn't nailed down, screwing over workers even more, and helping the rich take an even greater chunk of our national wealth, I'll be ready, waiting, with a big fat "I told you so". National is being admirably honest about its policy intentions this election, and no-one can credibly claim ignorance of them. People will be getting exactly what they vote for. If they don't like the outcome, then it will be a reminder to be more careful in voting in the future)

[rainman]

I didn't actually say "I" am not a socialist, I said I dislike most of them and what socialism does to people!

I have posted socialist works before! (Woodhouse ACC report, I support the original intent)

I should be afraid of some shit list? ... All my life it has only been the depth that varied!

I will read almost anything and make up my own mind what I actually choose to believe!

...

Most of the party loyal don't have a clue what their party stands for, they just stick with them like they do with their local rugby club!

(Well you gotta don't yah! .... Another round? Oi, your shout!)

Settle down old chap, I was just having a mild dig at you posting socialist stuff when I always saw you as being fairly anti. (Which I think you just confirmed in your first sentence... although maybe you're saying you're a libertarian socialist? )

I certainly appreciate you're one of the more independent thinkers on here and although I suspect I wouldn't agree with lots you might say, I'm sure a good chat with you over a few beers would be quite entertaining.

And I think you have NZ politics pretty well characterised in the last bit of your post too.

there you go talking about "HIM" again, whoever this superior being is.

Whatever, Quasi.

[Quasievil]

Im going to Vote for ACT.