Collected some revenue today

[Kickaha]

Makes you wonder how we have so many cretins these days sharing the roads with us...how come the idiot gene survived through to this day

I blame OSH and safety related legislation, it lets the dumb ones live to breed

[FJRider]

And ... then there's the ...

I can see something coming ... but I'll be through by the time it gets near me ...

SHIT ... he was going faster than I thought ...

HE must have been speeding ... it's HIS fault ...

[nadroj]

And ... then there's the ...

I can see something coming ... but I'll be through by the time it gets near me ...

SHIT ... he was going faster than I thought ...

HE must have been speeding ... it's HIS fault ...

And scubbing some speed off & getting on your own side in time becomes a problem....

[MSTRS:Me]

....Obviously, we don't get a free toaster. Other minor appliances either.

Hmmm...I find that...interesting...

[Berg]

I guess the point is that the only way to ensure no ticket is to keep witin the speed limit.


This didn't start out as a post on speed, but it actually was. The reason said chap was straightening the corners out was that he was travelling quicker than his 4WD was able to take the bends properly at. Oddly, he had a radar detector. Coincidence? I think not. His choice of speed was more important to him than staying on his own side of the road.

Some people cut corners because they are lazy drivers, some incompetent. Some because they are going a bit quick in the twisties to take the corners while staying on their own side of the road.

I'm obviously a nasty bastard then. The moment he admitted he was going too fast to safely execute the corner I would have charged him with careless.
I'm not scared of dragging people through court

[rastuscat]

Sometimes on right handers this means my head and shoulders might be in the oncoming lane but my wheels & footpegs will be left of the centreline and then only when I can see there's nothing coming. Would you have ticketed me rastuscat?

Hi Jack

(No, I'm not on an airplane with a bomb.)

Funny, I had exactly that discussion with my boss the other day. He wants us to ticket bikers who hang their heads over the centreline, even with the bike to the left of the line. I'm unlikely to do that. I do accept that bikers risk having their heads knocked off by putting them on the other side of the road, but I have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it on the centreline, where the rubber meets the road.

I put it down to discretion. Other Popos exercise more or less discretion. The only way to guarantee that a Popo won't tag you for failing to keep left is to keep the whole of your bike and being on your own side. Odd, I feel as if I'm being too harsh some days, when in fact, objectively, I'm a lot mellower than a lot of our troops.

I remember attending a crash a very long time back on Riddell Road, in Glendowie. There are concrete retaining walls there immediately at the roadside. There are concrete protrusions sticking out that the fence posts for the top mounted fence sit in. A biker was hanging it out on a left hand bend, got too close to the retaining wall on the left, and smacked his head on one of the concrete projections. Bugger. The bike was totally on the road, but his bonce was in contact with the wall to his left. Only one outcome there, I'm afraid.

It's one of the dangers I see in track days. They teach people to use the whole road. I guess it's not too much of an issue as long as said rider remembers that the right hand side of the track ends at the centreline.

Jack, I do the same. I use assertive lines, normally with late apexes, in twisties. But I always stay on my own side. I also allow for the bloody grit that they throw around down here to make the road "safer" in winter.

Safer? Yeah right.

[Metastable]

IMO that's awesome police work. I wish our cops did more of that.

I completely agree that there is NO REASON to cut a corner. It is just a safe practice never to do it. However, what's your take on swinging a little wide before corner entry on a tight left, so that you can get a better look through the corner?

[FJRider]

I completely agree that there is NO REASON to cut a corner. It is just a safe practice never to do it. However, what's your take on swinging a little wide before corner entry on a tight left, so that you can get a better look through the corner?

Be wary of doing that ... anybody exiting those corners (coming the other way) are likely to be on ... or over ... the centreline ... then things get a bit crowded ...

[rastuscat]

However, what's your take on swinging a little wide before corner entry on a tight left, so that you can get a better look through the corner?

Hell no. The plonker in the red Hilux might just be coming the other way. If you want a good view of the corner be as wide as you can on the entry but without crossing the line, and leave some margin for error. If that means not having a good view around the corner, slow down to a point where your speed matches your view.

Alternately, park your bike up, approach the corner on foot, have a look at whats around the bend, walk back to your bike then ride around the corner hoping nothing has changed since you looked. Probably better to just ride a little more conservatively.

Donuts.

[Brian d marge]

watch the white line ..... even the loons are careful

Stephen

[oldrider]

watch the white line ..... even the loons are careful Stephen

Can't work out whether you condoning or condemning that behaviour Stephen?

That sort of riding on "the public roads" is what gives motorcycling at large a bad reputation!

The same sort of riding and attitude on a race track would probably have them banned from the track!

Track racing that I have seen is more skilful and disciplined, something to be admired and appreciated!

Revenue collecting from cunts like that?

Bring it on, 100% behind the police on that! .

[rastuscat]

Mmmmmm. Open public roads.

We always bang on about how people pull out in front of us. And yet these guys ride around like there is no risk of it happening. Lots of crashes happen when inattentional blindness happens, both by the riders and other vehicle users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness

These guys need to go get some track time, and treat the roads with a little more respect. Get dressed up like a racer, ride a sports bike, and chill out a bit.

I guess the bulletproof feeling probably disappeared when he low sided.

Harumph.

[Ntoxcated]

watch the white line ..... even the loons are careful

Stephen

Check out the left hander at 53s He should have been able to see that car coming as well.

[Maha]

Check out the left hander at 53s He should have been able to see that car coming as well.

Indeed, stop it at 53s and you can clearly see the car...from the third bike!

[SPman]

If you can't get through a set of corners at pace, without having to cut corners or cross the centreline, it's about time to rethink your on-road attitude! Ultimately, it's a public highway, not a racetrack!