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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Miller View Post
    I agree we should ride at a speed that allows us to stop in the visible space ahead.
    Would have saved 130 pages worth of bandwidth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    I wouldn't call that "calculated".
    Indeed. Perhaps it would've been better stated as "failed to calculate".

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    it was "emotional"(for want of a better word)
    Nothing wrong with that mate. Emotional it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    someone died just because he's been told to inforce the speed scam.
    Too true... Irrespective of how many factors contributed to the crash this was certainly at least first equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Would have saved 130 pages worth of bandwidth.
    Indeed.

    We all know that there are fuckwit drivers out there but we seem to keep riding as if they don't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Would have saved 130 pages worth of bandwidth.
    yeah!!! but none of the key board warriors on here would have anything to bitch about
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    A police officer doing a 3 point turn over a crest is the least of your road rider issues ffs.

    one thing I will add to your discussion, you have to treat each persons mistakes as independant, the biker was speeding, the police officer was doing a 3 point turn, but neither was doing either as a result of the other (haha - read that a few times if you have to) therefore the events are independant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Shrek_ View Post
    yeah!!! but none of the key board warriors on here would have anything to bitch about
    nor would I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    A police officer doing a 3 point turn over a crest is the least of your road rider issues ffs.

    one thing I will add to your discussion, you have to treat each persons mistakes as independant, the biker was speeding, the police officer was doing a 3 point turn, but neither was doing either as a result of the other (haha - read that a few times if you have to) therefore the events are independant.
    Except that the events are dependent. The cop car wouldn't have been bent if the rider hadn't been speeding. The rider would be alive if the cop hadn't pulled the 3-pointer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Miller View Post
    Except that the events are dependent. The cop car wouldn't have been bent if the rider hadn't been speeding. The rider would be alive if the cop hadn't pulled the 3-pointer.
    .....The ute hadn't gone past sparking up the pursuit...The cops boss gave him another area to patrol......The rider stopped to take a leak so never arrived at the ridge at that moment...the consequences of compounding mistakes was never invented......

    I personally think the old surveyors should have cut the road through the rise rather than going over it then this shit wouldn't happen...the bastards!!, what were they thinking??!!? What sort of anti biker shit is this? ,hills, curves, speed limits, rules for fucks sake its not like a bike is a cage!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearfish View Post
    .....The ute hadn't gone past sparking up the pursuit...The cops boss gave him another area to patrol......The rider stopped to take a leak so never arrived at the ridge at that moment...the consequences of compounding mistakes was never invented......

    I personally think the old surveyors should have cut the road through the rise rather than going over it then this shit wouldn't happen...the bastards!!, what were they thinking??!!? What sort of anti biker shit is this? ,hills, curves, speed limits, rules for fucks sake its not like a bike is a cage!!!
    Don't blame the surveyors, or the road construction company either, it was the bloody politicians as usual spending the roading budget on themselves instead of paying for the cutting.

    Not saying the biker was blameless, there are plenty of other poster that will happily say he wasn't, but I do feel the cop got off lighter than another driver, expect possibly an octogenarian +, for his part in this event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Don't blame the surveyors, or the road construction company either, it was the bloody politicians as usual spending the roading budget on themselves instead of paying for the cutting.

    Not saying the biker was blameless, there are plenty of other poster that will happily say he wasn't, but I do feel the cop got off lighter than another driver, expect possibly an octogenarian +, for his part in this event.
    Yeah but..
    Unless a surveyer is an active bike rider they shouldn't get their degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    There's an easy answer to this - don't use your brain (at least not the conscious part) - it's too slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Indeed.

    We all know that there are fuckwit drivers out there but we seem to keep riding as if they don't exist.
    because if we didn't, riding would be very boring or even non-existant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    Use the force, Luke...
    Newb......it's a process called soft eye

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    so what bike does he ride? or could it be that the fine was unjust?
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/bl...on-U-turn-fine
    It just makes you wonder why we are so inconsistent about traffic sentences and punishment when you look at the story on Friday about Constable Michael Lenihan being fined $250 for throwing what appears to be an ill-advised U-turn in his patrol car in front of a motorcyclist, who was killed as a result of the crash
    Crikey, he may even have been carrying enough in his wallet to pay up on the way out of court

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    because if we didn't, riding would be very boring or even non-existant.
    That depends. There are plenty of twisty roads with good visibility. Slowing down for the odd blind corner or rise certainly doesn't make my rides boring. However, if you're a complete adrenaline junkie then I can well understand what you're saying. Horses for courses really. If you take the risk you also accept the consequences and must accept at least partial blame when it all turns to custard.

    On a broader not, I do agree that living life afraid of what's around every corner (metaphorically speaking) is not a good idea.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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