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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Some testers get really pedantic ... ie: The bike is registered as seating TWO ... REGARDLESS of only being/having a single seat fitted.
    mmm, I can't comment from personal experience, but I believe the wording is something around if it has the capability to seat someone there, foot pegs must be provisioned. If you're worrying OP, check the wording. I've corrected testers before. Humans make mistakes.
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    I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
    WTF????
    If there is no seat, nobody's going to use the pegs... and they will only use them when he puts the seat back on.
    Not really like Accessory lamps at all, as accessory lamps perform a function all by themselves. Just like the pegs do.
    I could understand it if the pegs were there but didn't actually fold, or one was missing, then he would have cause to fail the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
    Don't want to take OT, but I believe they can be ignored if disabled, if they don't comply. ie, lights comprising of LEDs must have 75% operational. Dunno, but pretty sure I've read that somewhere. At the same time tho, if lights don't comply with lighting laws, then they mustn't be there (as with my bosses bike however, we left the brackets in place, just took the lights off )
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    WTF????
    If there is no seat, nobody's going to use the pegs... and they will only use them when he puts the seat back on.
    Not really like Accessory lamps at all, as accessory lamps perform a function all by themselves. Just like the pegs do.
    As for the lamps ... even if only the base of the lamp is there (no lense's or an electrical connection) It will fail.
    I guess he was thinking if you had a seat ... footpegs are needed.
    If you have footpegs ... a SEAT is needed.

    I DO know he failed. (he put the seat back on and it passed ... funny that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    but certainly didn't get shitty and moan on KB, if on another occasion ... they FAIL me ... YOU seem like petty minded dip-stick that would though ...
    What do you base that on? You're being the bitch here, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sable View Post
    What do you base that on? You're being the bitch here, not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
    three wof tests with singe seat and pillion pegs, Ive never been queried.
    and if you have forward mounted highway pegs, do you need a seat on the fuel tank?
    Same reasoning, a pair of foot pegs must mean a seat for the pillion who will use them.
    Im sure a few harely riders would not mind a young lady using their highway pegs as they perch on the tank
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    got my last car wof given to me and told to fit new wiper blades, he said it was a fail but let me off as long as i did it

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I know of a harley owner that was failed because there was only a single seat. (the bitch pad was only put on for special people) but the foot rests were still on. His reasoning was ... pillion pegs were there so the pillion seat should be too ... Same reasoning as accessory lamps ... if fitted -must work.
    I had a wooden box fitted in place of the back seats in my Hilux. Mounted on the original seat mounts and took up the entire back seat area - no way anyone could have sat on it (in the box maybe, but the front seats touched it and it was full width and height). I'd removed the seat belt clasps but the belts themselves were still fitted. WoF Fail. Options were either a) remove belts also, b) remove box and re-fit seats or c) leave box in place and re-fit clasps - as long as the belts that were fitted worked, it didn't matter that no one could actually sit in there!. In the end it was easiest to remove the box and re-fit the clasps (but without the seat - that wasn't important!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curious_George View Post
    I had a wooden box fitted in place of the back seats in my Hilux. Mounted on the original seat mounts and took up the entire back seat area - no way anyone could have sat on it (in the box maybe, but the front seats touched it and it was full width and height). I'd removed the seat belt clasps but the belts themselves were still fitted. WoF Fail. Options were either a) remove belts also, b) remove box and re-fit seats or c) leave box in place and re-fit clasps - as long as the belts that were fitted worked, it didn't matter that no one could actually sit in there!. In the end it was easiest to remove the box and re-fit the clasps (but without the seat - that wasn't important!)
    Reminds me of my Fathers' old Landy. He added seat belts himself - it was old enough it didn't have to have them. Then one day got a ticket for not wearing his seat belt. Makes sense, I guess, but he still felt a bit annoyed to be charged for not wearing something that didn't have to be there in the first place...
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    All the requirements for WOF's can be found on This page , and downloaded as pdf files. Pillion footrests are a requirement if there is seating provided as previously stated
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    Reminds me of my Fathers' old Landy. He added seat belts himself - it was old enough it didn't have to have them. Then one day got a ticket for not wearing his seat belt. Makes sense, I guess, but he still felt a bit annoyed to be charged for not wearing something that didn't have to be there in the first place...
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