Be aware, Kapiti Coast riders

[FJRider]

Expect for all the car drivers that knock us off our bike?

Except that car verses BIKE accident is still shown in statistics as a Motorcycle accident ...

[dmc]

Except that car verses BIKE accident is still shown in statistics as a Motorcycle accident ...

Yeh but he said "there action" and last time I looked getting hit wasn't something you generally caused unless your being a muppet.

[FJRider]

No but there actions don't affect my rego fees as much as the riding and crashing done by fellow riders does.

If THEIR actions involve motorcyclists, in the end result of those actions ... the bias of the reports of those actions, do not favour motorcyclists ... Statistics DO affect your fee's by way of ammunition for the powers that be that SET the fee's ...

[FROSTY:Me]

Stuff and nonsense. While the Police may get tut tutty about motorcycle apparel, if a rider is wearing a "securely fitting helmet" and isn't offending public decency, all the cops can do is collect statistics. They can only uphold the law. Fortunately ATGATT isn't legal. New Zealand already has way too many stupid, unnecessary, unenforceably laws. Please don't give us any more.

Fark it this is a case of dambed if ya do and dambed if ya don't. So everybody goes attgatt and the nice fulla from ACC says "ya see a law change won't affect those scum anyway because they are alerady wearing the gear"
Deliberately ride in the minimum gear. Jeans tee shirt and a hoodie and Mr ACC man goes "ohh we must right away have a new law to protect these idiots from themselves"
IMO the best idea is IN THIS CASE to be in stealth mode. What they can't see they can't report on.

[allycatz]

They would be better suited cruizing the Paekak Hill Rd and correcting the riding techniques of the road cyclists who are usually 2-3 abreast across the Rd and will blatantly keep doing it regardless of who is behind them. We nearly took out three on the wrong side of the Rd...Lycra undies and a shower curtain raincoat would of done stuff all to save them from 380 kgs of Boulevard

[Berries]

So everybody goes attgatt and the nice fulla from ACC says "ya see a law change won't affect those scum anyway because they are alerady wearing the gear".

Or he says "I see they are all wearing the gear yet still getting maimed and injured at an unacceptable rate and being subsidised by car drivers. I know, let's limit everyone to 125cc. Oh, that won't work, let's price them off the road because we can't ban the bastards"

[Katman]

Or he says "I see they are all wearing the gear yet still getting maimed and injured at an unacceptable rate and being subsidised by car drivers. I know, let's limit everyone to 125cc. Oh, that won't work, let's price them off the road because we can't ban the bastards"

Repeated for it's prophetic value.

[Katman]

The only answer is to stop having the avoidable accidents.






(And to stop clutching at the straws of trying to excuse your accidents as one of those 'unavoidable' ones).

[FJRider]

IMO the best idea is IN THIS CASE to be in stealth mode. What they can't see they can't report on.

That doesn't work now ... "I didn't see him" seems to be a common remark after an accident involving a motorcycle ...

[dmc]

Until ACC classes motorcycle accidents as "no fault" like ACC coverage is meant to be we are all screwed regardless of the number of accidents we do or don't have.

Maybe instead of the safety board guys worrying about hi-viz and poop on the road they could do something to educate drivers about motorcycles and cyclists, hell maybe they could teach muppets not to over fill their f'n diesel tanks and dump it on round about's while they are at it, I'm sure ACC would be as happy as me if they sorted that puppy out.

[FJRider]

Until ACC classes motorcycle accidents as "no fault" like ACC coverage is meant to be we are all screwed regardless of the number of accidents we do or don't have.

"No fault" is the official policy ...

However ...

ANY excuse ... is actual policy ...

[dmc]

"No fault" is the official policy ...

However ...

ANY excuse ... is actual policy ...

Yep, I can't complain to loudly as they have spent up large on me lately but still would like it a little fairer.

[FJRider]

Yep, I can't complain to loudly as they have spent up large on me lately but still would like it a little fairer.

Yep ... getting value for your (ACC) levy money ... sucks ...

[dmc]

Yep ... getting value for your (ACC) levy money ... sucks ...

Yeh cuts into your riding time too.

[pc220]

Stuff and nonsense. While the Police may get tut tutty about motorcycle apparel, if a rider is wearing a "securely fitting helmet" and isn't offending public decency, all the cops can do is collect statistics. They can only uphold the law. Fortunately ATGATT isn't legal. New Zealand already has way too many stupid, unnecessary, unenforceably laws. Please don't give us any more.

Once again Mr Hitcher your poor grammy has let you down.