Child abuse: when the FUCK are we going to actually take this seriously?

[Grasshopperus]

I agree with you entirely Brett. I read a similar article today on my lunch break and was almost brought to tears reading what happened to the poor young pup. This quote especially brought it home "The Crown also walked the jury through evidence booklets, including pictures of Cezar's vomit-stained blankets and a mobile phone picture of his 'last smile' ".

In this case the sterilisation (of the male) wouldn't have done much, he was not the natural father of this baby.

This case is currently before a jury, the murderer (Hemana) has pleaded guilty to manslaughter but not murder, as he "didn't know that shaking Cezar was likely to cause his death".

I really hope the jury (and then the judge for sentencing) nail this bastard.

Hemana's lawyer Steve Bonnar said he had no doubt his client was the most hated man in the courtroom where the air was "thick with prejudice".
He said the jury would have to strive "very, very hard" to ensure they understood their own emotions and try their best to separate those out from the cold, clinical decision they would have to make.

Reading between the lines even the goddamn lawyer isn't trying to excuse Remana's behaviour.

The gallows I say.

[SS90]

fixed your post to better reflect the gender of the abuser in the quoted article

Hate on Men much, Sweetheart?

Perhaps the Woman in question would be better served by being more choosy on who she lets into her panties/life.

[SS90]

anyways this time the abuser was a man.

This statement, is as ignorant as much of what you have written on this thread... let me clarify.....

This woman failed to give the nessesities of life to her child, she failed to contact the myriad of support there is out there, she let her kid DIE over 5 friggen days....

No, she is not a victim, no matter how much you want to suggest it, she is indeed guilty of child abuse.... It is fair to suggest that this was not an isoltaed incident.

I cannot understand how or why a parent (of any sex) would not die for their child, and, as such, put their child safety ahead of their own.

This is just a sign of the current society.... "Me first"....this seems to include many peoples kids too.

[meteor]

So if a house full of [4] people all obviously know what happened but make statements that are false or just fail to say, why can't they all be charged with the manslaughter? There is a law that allows police to charge everyone in a car for DIC if the actual drunk driver isn't able to be identified.
You'd think that after the 'tight 12' fiasco the laws would be amended to allow affirmative action. Self incrimination no, but charge them all or hold them all in custody until one breaks silence. The rights of the individual outweighing the rights of society (or the victim) yet again.

[Paul in NZ]

Christine Rankin made an interesting point on TV last night. She was quoting Pat Booth and I cant remember it exactly word for word but basically it was along the lines of 'If every year 6 to 10 politicians were killed and 40 were seriously assaulted, the whole country would be turned inside out until this 'outrage' was stamped out'...

I tend to agree with her.

Whats more outrageous is that we tax payers are usually funding these arseholes. I'm sorry - its about time we had some kind of WoF on a persons citizenship tied into their 'rights'... They have to be up to a minimum specification before getting any extra from society. I don't expect people to be perfect or even like me but I do expect them to sacrifice their own comfort for their kids

[Deano]

Well....the European tribe seem to be responsible for a tad over 50% of all child abuse cases....they just aren't deemed as "newsworthy" as someone with a non white skin.

Check out figure 4 bro.

http://www.nzchildren.co.nz/injuries.php

Or are the hospitals in on this 'conspiracy' as well.

[PrincessBandit]

Hate on Men much, Sweetheart?

Perhaps the Woman in question would be better served by being more choosy on who she lets into her panties/life.

Both sides of the equation eh. Perhaps men should also take more responsibility for who they stick their pricks into - or are they completely unrestricted in their freedom of who to impregnate? (Even in, an I use this term very very loosely, a "couple" relationship women can have sex forced on them. Not necessarily as a violent rape, but coercion, fear, or "it's my right to have sex with you")

Men and women have many and varied reasons for why they indulge in baby-making activities i.e. sex. Procreation can occur regardless of most types of contraception, and then you have those who just don't give a **** who they ****. It's not just one parties concern regarding the consequences of having sex.

[avgas]

There is a huge problem with these disfunctional people. (although the breeding function appears to be 'on' all the bloody time. The issues are nearly always multilayered and complex and to be fair the picture you have painted with the first post might no be the whole story or how it happened.

Shock collars stop dogs barking.

How about a cock ring with a tazer?

[avgas]

In this case the sterilisation (of the male) wouldn't have done much, he was not the natural father of this baby.

I wonder if they said the same about HIS dad.
These solutions never solve the problem in 1 generation........they solve them later on.

Very hard to continue the circle of violence if you remove the next generation.

[Swoop]

A family "group" who refuse to talk, should be charged with perverting the course of justice and locked up in solitary confinement until their court date.

A message needs to be sent to these fuckers.

Shock collars stop dogs barking.
How about a cock ring with a tazer?

It would probably fall off.

Zip-ties around the throat, done up nice and snug, would be more efficient...

[MSTRS:Me]

...the murderer (Hemana) has pleaded guilty to manslaughter but not murder, as he "didn't know that shaking Cezar was likely to cause his death".

What happened to 'ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law' ?

As far as the Kahui-type/s, it's high time the law is applied to all involved in this sort of shit.
One of them did it, the rest are all equally guilty as accessories after the fact.
Charge them all with murder, and those that can prove they didn't do the actual killing get the charge 'reduced'...

[Brett]

Charge them all with murder, and those that can prove they didn't do the actual killing get the charge 'reduced'...

I like that part.

[no_8wire]

Check out figure 4 bro.

http://www.nzchildren.co.nz/injuries.php

Or are the hospitals in on this 'conspiracy' as well.

I get the following from the Table 1 below Figure 4.
Euro - 35%
Asian - 3%
Maori -50%
Pacific - 12%

Percentages on total number 2006-2010 Hospital Admission assault/neglect etc

[MSTRS:Me]

I get the following from the Table 1 below Figure 4.
Euro - 35%
Asian - 3%
Maori -50%
Pacific - 12%

Percentages on total number 2006-2010 Hospital Admission assault/neglect etc

Now factor ethnicity by population percentages...
Hint: Maori are about 20% of the total pop. with 50% of the total admissions...

[SS90]

Both sides of the equation eh. Perhaps men should also take more responsibility for who they stick their pricks into - or are they completely unrestricted in their freedom of who to impregnate? (Even in, an I use this term very very loosely, a "couple" relationship women can have sex forced on them. Not necessarily as a violent rape, but coercion, fear, or "it's my right to have sex with you")

Men and women have many and varied reasons for why they indulge in baby-making activities i.e. sex. Procreation can occur regardless of most types of contraception, and then you have those who just don't give a **** who they ****. It's not just one parties concern regarding the consequences of having sex.

I agree with you on this, it certainly does take two to tango, (as they say)

I just fail to understand why so many "at risk" members of society continue to breed at such unsustainable levels, and why, in my short lifetime it has become so commonplace for this same demograph to start killing their kids...it seems like some sort of cult..... get a benefit, have a kid with some P addicted oxygen thief, contribute to your childs fatal injuries, then not take it to a Hospital and let it die.

Yes, you a right an abusive relationship is hard to get out of, however a reasonably intelligent person can (generally) spot a P addicted violent offender from a dedicated, loving Father.

Prevention is better than the cure!