Congratulations 48%

[superman]

no , just tell me "why" its so scary , the pros and cons etc

Stephen

"Privatised things are just soooo scary." (sarcasm)

I always forget how necessary it can be point out sarcasm online.

[Brian d marge]

You were told.
You should have paid attention during the campaign - it's an ACT policy (as Key said "..that's MMP for you..").
Notwithstanding that, it's very similar to the intergrated private school model now operating.

I wasn’t, it did indeed sneak past , ( which is what others have said) , and considering im not in NZ .......

and yes while act and national are bed fellows , I "Should" should of expected it , the fact remain , that the new zealand government(s) are doing exactly what the IMF expect of them ( as stated by the IMF themselves openly on the website )

Remember of course that America , has the majority vote etc etc ( and has bullied the other members since its inception just after ( and during ) the Breton woods agreement)

Privatization has some good point , but when there is no , or little competition , and / or subsidization then the business model collapses .

evidence;

Electricity
Roading
Trains
Mines
and this list is pre coffee and off the top of my head , and clear examples of the intent of private money .

While the schools maybe "good" and excellent schools, 2 problems , you will create an "us and them" education system and the costs WILL go up , which may ( most likely ) drag the costs of the other state schools up as they try to compete

We need to get back to an egalitarian NZ , remove the American influence on NZ , NZ is NZ NOT America.

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

"Privatised things are just soooo scary." (sarcasm)

I always forget how necessary it can be point out sarcasm online.

yes you do as mind reading isnt taught in Schools these days, ( its also not an excuse for typing something silly )

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Yeah but at least I can understand what he's typing.

Well , the "new charter school" is your Savior then , slap a few hundred down , and you be caught up in no time !

Stephen

[MisterD]

We need to get back to an egalitarian NZ , remove the American influence on NZ , NZ is NZ NOT America.

But, but, but...you lefties are always holding up Scandinavia in general, and Sweden in particular, as societies we should emulate. This policy looks awfully much like the Swedish "free school" model...

[Brian d marge]

But, but, but...you lefties are always holding up Scandinavia in general, and Sweden in particular, as societies we should emulate. This policy looks awfully much like the Swedish "free school" model...

I’m not a lefty and never have used the Nordic states as an example , I’m just anti greed and wish better for the common man .

Stephen

http://www.oecd.org/document/40/0,37..._1_1_1,00.html

[BoristheBiter]

But, but, but...you lefties are always holding up Scandinavia in general, and Sweden in particular, as societies we should emulate. This policy looks awfully much like the Swedish "free school" model...

And don't forget the model country Canada.

[oldrider]

Yeah, amazing, eh. One of the benefits of not putting up many policies during the campaign and being voted in by a bunch of tribal loyalists is you can do whatever the fuck you want afterwards and the stupid idiots will probably make excuses for you all the while, no matter what you do. And you get good money, great perks, and beemer company cars... Nice work if you can get it.

1984 election won by Labour and the nation got ACT ... which was re elected again next term by the tribal loyalists that you speak of!

1984 also saw the worst "socialist" prime minister (Muldoon) thrown out of office by socialist Labour tribal loyalists!

Are You trying to tell us that this political behaviour is something new? ... Well, it ain't!

It works for them because of the ignorance of the tribal loyalists who vote religiously for their "party" blindly!

Unfortunately (IMHO) MMP allows them (politicians) to indulge themselves and only be accountable to each other at the expense of the electorate!

Finally they hope the electorate will just roll over and submit!

[avgas]

http://www.oecd.org/document/40/0,37..._1_1_1,00.html

Lets copy france and greece. They seem to have it right

[SPman]

The stupidity of the voters who listened to them and thought it a much better idea to borrow, borrow, borrow and put that same (next) generation in debt up to their eyeballs before they are even old enough to vote absolutely astounds me.

This would be John Key and co. that you're talking about?.......

Never mind, New Zealand is again a world leader! Our gap between rich and poor widened more than in any other developed country in the past twenty years: Figures from the OECE show the income of the richest 10 per cent of Kiwis is now more than 10 times that of the poorest 10 per cent. This is up from a ratio of around six-to-one in the 1980s and higher than the average income gap in developed nations of nine-to-one

[Brian d marge]

Lets copy france and greece. They seem to have it right

Yeeehaaaaa red team go .......

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

This would be John Key and co. that you're talking about?.......

Never mind, New Zealand is again a world leader! Our gap between rich and poor widened more than in any other developed country in the past twenty years: Figures from the OECE show the income of the richest 10 per cent of Kiwis is now more than 10 times that of the poorest 10 per cent. This is up from a ratio of around six-to-one in the 1980s and higher than the average income gap in developed nations of nine-to-one

The question is , WHY do we want an egalitarian society , I don't care if someone rich , but I sure as hell don't like living in the mess left behind, caused by the " disenfranchised "

Stephen

[BoristheBiter]

This would be John Key and co. that you're talking about?.......

Never mind, New Zealand is again a world leader! Our gap between rich and poor widened more than in any other developed country in the past twenty years: Figures from the OECE show the income of the richest 10 per cent of Kiwis is now more than 10 times that of the poorest 10 per cent. This is up from a ratio of around six-to-one in the 1980s and higher than the average income gap in developed nations of nine-to-one

So basically the poor have done fuck all to make themselves better off is what that says.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This would be John Key and co. that you're talking about?.......

Never mind, New Zealand is again a world leader! Our gap between rich and poor widened more than in any other developed country in the past twenty years: Figures from the OECE show the income of the richest 10 per cent of Kiwis is now more than 10 times that of the poorest 10 per cent. This is up from a ratio of around six-to-one in the 1980s and higher than the average income gap in developed nations of nine-to-one

As a country, China is the fastest growing economy is it not? Does it not also have the greatest gap between rich and poor?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So basically the poor have done fuck all to make themselves better off is what that says.

And will always look for an excuse and blame those better off than themselves, rather than take a long hard look in a fucking mirror.