Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[riffer]

In the interests of full disclosure, I'm not one of those never-get-a-ticket types.

My latest was for overtaking at 126km/hr while on the painted median, giving the one-finger salute and shouting obscenities at a brain-dead idiot in some nondescript SUV who'd unsuccessfully tried to wipe me out no less than three times between SH68 (Haywards Hill) and Silverstream.

It was almost worth the 35 demerits and $380. But not if you ask my wife.

[bsasuper]

Its that time of year when they need to top up the coffers again, camera vans where they have never been before, sneaky cops setting up sneaky speed traps, getting ticketed for the minimim, but its OK because the popo want us to have a happy safe xmas, and extracting unfair MONEY from us will solve everything.

[scumdog]

Its that time of year when they need to top up the coffers again, camera vans where they have never been before, sneaky cops setting up sneaky speed traps, getting ticketed for the minimim, but its OK because the popo want us to have a happy safe xmas, and extracting unfair MONEY from us will solve everything.

Well they won't get jack-shit out of me!

[rastuscat]

Its that time of year when they need to top up the coffers again, camera vans where they have never been before, sneaky cops setting up sneaky speed traps, getting ticketed for the minimim, but its OK because the popo want us to have a happy safe xmas, and extracting unfair MONEY from us will solve everything.

Yet again, the same ol'd thing applies. The money extraction is totally, 100% voluntary. Don't wanna pay? Don't speed. Don't wanna get caught? Don't speed. It's amazing how many people are going to drive past a Popo radar car this week without being targetted, coz they aren't speeding.

Getting a hint yet? Appears not, from your comment about sneaky cops. Even sneaky radar traps can't catch someone speeding if they aren't.

Harumph.

[rastuscat]

Well they won't get jack-shit out of me!

I'll come down and kick the shit out of you Scummie.

Hey, heard of the Blue Knights?

[Kickaha]

Yet again, the same ol'd thing applies. The money extraction is totally, 100% voluntary. Don't wanna pay? Don't speed. Don't wanna get caught? Don't speed.

A lot of people don't seem to be intelligent enough to be able to work that out by themselves

[Berries]

Hey, heard of the Blue Knights?

Is that when you get the lads round for the evening and watch porn?

[Brian d marge]

Due to the selfish, self-centered stupidity, of some road users ... any "later cost" is the least of their problems ... or worries. SOMEBODY will pay. Just NOT them ....

The cost to the health care system will drop , one also assumes the govenments , angst about the road toll .

On a side note the argument about , don’t speed don’t pay .. I have a red flag I am willing to lend to the fine boys in blue so that they may walk in front of your vehicle to warn mm the fellows of the impending Motoring carriage


The road and transport system is antiquated , and needs overhauling, but why would you when The harbor bridge pays quite nicely thanks

Stephen

[bsasuper]

Yet again, the same ol'd thing applies. The money extraction is totally, 100% voluntary. Don't wanna pay? Don't speed. Don't wanna get caught? Don't speed. It's amazing how many people are going to drive past a Popo radar car this week without being targetted, coz they aren't speeding.

Getting a hint yet? Appears not, from your comment about sneaky cops. Even sneaky radar traps can't catch someone speeding if they aren't.

Harumph.

I get it 100% (Harumph?), but you dont.Tell me how extorting money out of people is going to save lives,tell me how if one street is patrolled its safe, but another that is not is going to kill someone.I just hope that you dont get caught in one of their setups.Sure I always laugh when I see someone getting a ticket,its just some of their methods that are "sneaky" example, country road, 80 limit, minimum traffic, big potholes, people get ticketed for 8km over or crossing the double line avoiding the potholes, when there are no other vechicles on the road.Dont get me wrong, speeding is a danger, I keep my speeding for the track.I have video footage of them doing it,every person who cops a ticket cant believe what just happened,I also have video of cops breaking traction when they thought no one was around, I could put it on youtube, but I have something called discretion so I wont, as it could mean a few cops get fired, who have families, kids to feed etc, but untill they find out the use of discretion I have zero respect, when it comes to unfair traffic tickets.

[sinfull]

I like going fast !

That's all.

[swbarnett]

So why were the fines reduced instead of being increased?

My theory is that as the fines are reduced the default rate will drop. Therefore increasing the overall take.

[swbarnett]

Intelligent, skilled riders/drivers, that are familiar with their vehicles, should have no problems keeping within any posted (speed) limit

So, if the law told you you could only eat white bread because some people were stupid enough to choke on wholemeal (but were safe with white) would you blindly comply?

Just because I "have no problems keeping within any posted (speed) limit" if I choose to does not mean anyone has the right to force me to do so.

The African Americans of the 50s should've had no problems keeping to there section of the bus. Are you saying they were wrong for deliberately sitting outside their assigned area?

The speed limit is just another example of legalised discrimination. It discriminates against those drivers that have no problem keeping within a reasonable speed for the conditions that sometimes just happens to be above some arbitrary number of a sign post.

[DR650gary]

So, if the law told you you could only eat white bread because some people were stupid enough to choke on wholemeal (but were safe with white) would you blindly comply?

Just because I "have no problems keeping within any posted (speed) limit" if I choose to does not mean anyone has the right to force me to do so.

The African Americans of the 50s should've had no problems keeping to there section of the bus. Are you saying they were wrong for deliberately sitting outside their assigned area?

The speed limit is just another example of legalised discrimination. It discriminates against those drivers that have no problem keeping within a reasonable speed for the conditions that sometimes just happens to be above some arbitrary number of a sign post.

The scary thing is that you probably believe the drivel that you are typing

[Edbear]

So, if the law told you you could only eat white bread because some people were stupid enough to choke on wholemeal (but were safe with white) would you blindly comply?

Just because I "have no problems keeping within any posted (speed) limit" if I choose to does not mean anyone has the right to force me to do so.

The African Americans of the 50s should've had no problems keeping to there section of the bus. Are you saying they were wrong for deliberately sitting outside their assigned area?

The speed limit is just another example of legalised discrimination. It discriminates against those drivers that have no problem keeping within a reasonable speed for the conditions that sometimes just happens to be above some arbitrary number of a sign post.

So just how would you resolve the "problem" that your riding/driving skills are so much better than others, and your ability to pick the road/weather/traffic conditions everywhere is faultless, that you should be allowed to ride/drive at whatever speed you choose without being pulled over for it?

Bearing in mind, and all the cops on here will agree, that most people are unsafe at any speed on the road and should never get behind the wheel in the first place, it would be carnage to allow them to do the same. How would you phrase the legislation and Police it?

The scary thing is that you probably believe the drivel that you are typing

Well, we can't all be thinkers can we...?

[Kiwibaconator]

Newbie here. I've just joined looking for ways to fight a speeding ticket that I didn't earn. I was pulled over in town and accused of speeding at 114km/h roughly 4km ago. There being three major problems, I didn't break 100km/h on the entire trip, the cops cannot even show me the area where they allege I was speeding and due to road corners and undulations there was no visual until 3.5km later. The last few hundred metres finding a clear place to stop. The only thing they could show was an iphone map of an area roughly 4km back in a string of 65km/h corners which I always (no exception this day) take below 100.
They did show me a radar reading of 114. But that reading is either not mine or there's a serious issue with their equipment. I was driving at the time and I have a witness in the car.

Looks like this one is going to court, I've never had a ticket before and I'm not starting with one I didn't earn. Can someone PM me the list of information that can be requested?

Cheers