Ride safe. Bollox!

[Scuba_Steve]

Money making? Aren't these kinda dangerous and cause accidents?

Cell use (talking) is a lesser danger, drinking coffee or smoking a fag poses higher risk, in-fact hands free we're allowed to use is more dangerous than talking directly on it.
Slow people in themselves aren't always dangerous but they do cause road-rage which is, if they do what they are supposed to then everything is good. But we'll see if this is enforced or inforced like da speed scam.
crossing center lines can be dangerous but I did qualify it with the "crazy with the yellow paint", if your've seen some of the places he's been out with his paint, it can only be assumed these roads are being setup for money making.
Red light runners are dangerous & if RC does what he claims this is good enforcement. Red light cameras however are also dangerous & again like speed cameras they're primary purpose is to make money this is where it steps into inforcement

it's all about wether it's enforced or inforced. these laws have been round just as long as "speed" so why is it only now they're starting to enforce/target them? (exception to cell)

[actungbaby]

I agree 110 % percent cause i cant add

this is great campain we got reduce the road toll if its your mother or realtive killed by driver
i think you can winge all you like not going make any diffrence
If you cant get where your going by averaging acceptable road speed well you not very good
whats 4 mins gained if you stop and have leak theres your gains out the window

you guys talk a load bs alot the time , if you pass you only catch up to carvans and such on hoildays times
as for that oh am scared somone tailgating me bs i have to do 140kph bollocks

Please we ride in the real world i never had problems and i ride at 100kph max , i even rode scooter from chch
to palmerston north no problem ,

heres tip for you somones up ya chuff pull over to left let them past

Last year the speed limit on the open road was 100 Km's/hr.

This year it's 100 Km's/hr.

This week it's 100 Km's/hr.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED ...

It is up to the discretion of the officer that catches YOU exceeding the speed limit ...

What is written on the ticket that he/she may issue you .... will depend a lot (but NOT always) on the "infamous" attitude test ...

Those that did issue tickets for 104 km's and over ... will continue to do so ... if they choose to ...

But as far as the LAW goes ... NOTHING has changed.

[MSTRS:Me]

heres tip for you somones up ya chuff pull over to left let them past

Tell that to the ignorant slow pricks out there...
And while you're at it, tell them to NOT speed up in passing lanes

[Berries]

you guys talk a load bs alot the time

It is in English though.

[BigAl]

i ride at 100kph max , i even rode scooter from chch
to palmerston north no problem ,

That's why you can ride at 100k, cause you're riding a scooter.

[avgas]

It is Bollox...I would like to hear the explaination as to why the road in 1973 was three times as high as this years road?
They either take credit or lay blame
Credit where credits due...the road users are the reason for the road toll (high or low) not the police.
The Police do not make the decision for any given road user.
The road user makes a decision...wheather it be right or wrong at the time, that decision alone can be the deciding factor on the road toll.

- ABS
- Traction control
- FWD vehicles (or 4wd) vs RWD (non LSD)
- Automatic transmissions (not "glidemissions")
- Airbags
- "Control" Tarseal or even Rubberised seal on difficult corners
- Lower vehicle weights (aka lower momentum weights)
- Disc Brakes
- Anti-Drink driving culture
- Less gravel roads
- Stronger incentive for policing to monitor vehicles


Probably have missed countless more, but am raiding the spirits and having a quiet few to bring in 2012. But I recall reading something somewhere that pointed all these out.
Basically vehicle, road and policing wise the 1970's was Russian roulette. Now days most vehicles are relatively moron proof. Which is why its so shocking we still have such high stats in NZ.
They fixed everything except the morons.

[Ocean1]

Which is why its so shocking we still have such high stats in NZ.
They fixed everything except the morons.

Before you compare NZ with any other country you'd better find one with similar countryside vehicle fleet and roads. As it is I don't recall that our stat's are that different to most of the rest of the western world, certainly better than vast swathes of Europe and the Eastern block.

And the morons are everywhere else too. Better be technically correct and call 'em average drivers, eh? If you figure they're not up to your standards p'raps we could ask how they learn when their every move is managed for them.

[MSTRS:Me]

... p'raps we could ask how they learn when their every move is managed for them.

Hence my comment about removing the need to think...

[Ocean1]

Hence my comment about removing the need to think...

Yes. It's become very easy to switch off, eh?

And it seems, perversly, that everything that's done to make us safer reduces the stimulation needed to retain focus.

If it's not obvious I believe they're on the wrong track, here...

[scumdog]

Now days most vehicles are relatively moron proof. Which is why its so shocking we still have such high stats in NZ.
They fixed everything except the morons.

Like the moron near Kapiti who decided to overtake at the last second at the end of a passing lane and 'had' to squeeze in - loosing control while doing so, crossing the centreline and hitting another vehicle head-on.

Oh well, he won't be doing THAT again...

[avgas]

Before you compare NZ with any other country you'd better find one with similar countryside vehicle fleet and roads.

That would be a developed country, no?
Realistically if you were to argue against what I said you would have to compare to a country that doesn't have all the things I said.
Asia (Poor), South America, India.......would be good comparisons. When you look at the statistics its quite amazing that they have better stats or the same stats when you think that they don't even have good brakes. Or barriers.
They also have fleets of vehicles that make us look like a bunch of hicks.
VW sell a car called the Santana to the general populace of S.America's and China - no where else. It has not changed much since 1984.
Likewise Morris Ambassador in India.

Your right about people calling morons in NZ, "average" drivers. But that mantra is wrong. We should be trying to fix it. It used to be average to drink drive, it used to be average to smoke and it used to be average to beat your kids.
The problem needs to be acknowledged - and its up to the public to do so.
The whole of NZ needs to go back to road school, rewards to those that show they know how to control a vehicle, punishment that have no respect for their vehicle and the road.
Currently we only look at how road users treat other road users. There is complete disregard to weather a person can even control the vehicle they are in charge of.
If the firearms licensing was the same as car/motorbike in NZ - teenagers would have AK47's, Grannies would have RPG's and 40's year olds would have a 'weekend' arsenal that could reclaim Fiji.
But cars and motorbikes aren't "weapons" apparently.

[scumdog]

If the firearms licensing was the same as car/motorbike in NZ - teenagers would have AK47's, Grannies would have RPG's and 40's year olds would have a 'weekend' arsenal that could reclaim Fiji.
But cars and motorbikes aren't "weapons" apparently.

You've got a point there.

Look at how many guns are in NZ

Look at how many vehicles we have in NZ

Look at how hard it is to get a firearms licence & gun.

Look how hard it is to get a drivers licence and car.

Look at which was 'designed solely to kill' (according to some)

Look at what actually causes the bigger number of deaths.

[Scuba_Steve]

If the firearms licensing was the same as car/motorbike in NZ

firearms licence pretty much the same, in respect to getting it (in-fact easier), you have money you get card. The only saving grace is it's only people who want/like firearms that actually get the licence, unlike car licence where everyone "needs" one.
It'll be a good day when they perfect the self drive car

[scumdog]

firearms licence pretty much the same, in respect to getting it (in-fact easier), you have money you get card.

So when did you get your firearms licence?

I bet it wasn't by doing a 'scratchy' test and on the third attempt..

And I bet no relatives/friends were interviewed prior to you getting your drivers licence....um?

I could go on but you get the picture.

[Scuba_Steve]

So when did you get your firearms licence?

I bet it wasn't by doing a 'scratchy' test and on the third attempt..

And I bet no relatives/friends were interviewed prior to you getting your drivers licence....um?

I could go on but you get the picture.

would post the 20/20 video in response to you, but I can't find a copy. Maybee the blurb will surfice.

In a special investigation, 20/20's hidden cameras uncover disturbing evidence about New Zealand's gun licensing laws. HADYN JONES shows just how little you need to know to get a license and even worse...how examiners will give you a license even if you have failed the firearms test. Watch as we take three people who know nothing about guns through the licensing process. They were shocked. Will you be?

Aside from aviation, the licensing system in NZ is a complete joke, in-fact the whole reason the gun licence exists is kinda a joke, you should be well aware of this Scummy.