Safer Journeys for Motorcycling

[GrayWolf]

Some of them oldies ride bikes, we need to send an undercover agent into the inner sanctum of "greypower" now there’s a voting block .....

Stephen

We already have that agent, it's called the Ulyssess club...... There's another large group if we could only get them 'onside'.. but to do that asd Max has pointed out, we need collectively to clean our act up.

[Brian d marge]

We already have that agent, it's called the Ulyssess club...... There's another large group if we could only get them 'onside'.. but to do that asd Max has pointed out, we need collectively to clean our act up.

Uylessisses , you mean , I remember the top fella being almost PRO increases , They did IMHO , very little

BRONZ , in particular Ixon did much more , again IMHO

No , its greypower Im talking about , the old biddies ,,,,,,, ( who are quite canny sometimes )

Stephen

[Brian407]

A significant number of Ulysses members are already in Grey Power.

[Brian d marge]

A significant number of Ulysses members are already in Grey Power.

if they were significant , Winston peters would have been up there like a rat up the drain pipe

So either they are Significant , but did nothing , or of an insignificant number.

unfortunately we need the Whole of greypowers voting block , Or the tide of popular opinion, before those idiot will listen

and at the moment we are a loose collection of individuals , that’s getting the short shaft

Stephen

[Brian407]

if they were significant , Winston peters would have been up there like a rat up the drain pipe

So either they are Significant , but did nothing , or of an insignificant number.

unfortunately we need the Whole of greypowers voting block , Or the tide of popular opinion, before those idiot will listen

and at the moment we are a loose collection of individuals , that’s getting the short shaft

Stephen

Play semantics as much as you like, it doesnt alter the fact that a significant number of Uylsses members are also members of grey power, but as Uysses are mostly apolitical then i guess they're just in it for the discounts.

[bikaholic]

Brian 407, those other groups that have been mentioned, are a world apart from KB, why are you not singing your gospel to them?
Serious question.

[Brian407]

Brian 407, those other groups that have been mentioned, are a world apart from KB, why are you not singing your gospel to them?
Serious question.

Despite the fact that Greypower has motorcyclists within their midst, to them we are just 'temporary kiwis' riding 'two wheeled death traps', and they have nothing to be gained politically by supporting our cause, and Ulysses, as we all know, have thier own 'fish to fry' and are not that interested in our cause.

Serious Answer.

[bikaholic]

Despite the fact that Greypower has motorcyclists within their midst, to them we are just 'temporary kiwis' riding 'two wheeled death traps', and they have nothing to be gained politically by supporting our cause, and Ulysses, as we all know, have thier own 'fish to fry' and are not that interested in our cause.

Serious Answer.

Right-e-o then, what other vehicles (media, groups etc) would there be to infultrate, get on side with or get a empathetic co-something with?

[Hitcher]

Right-e-o then, what other vehicles (media, groups etc) would there be to infultrate, get on side with or get a empathetic co-something with?

• AA (perhaps both, but probably the automotive one)
• Federated Farmers
• Chambers of Commerce
• Rotary, Lions, Probus, etc
• Trade Unions
• MNZ and other motorsport organisations

[bikaholic]

• AA (perhaps both, but probably the automotive one)
• Federated Farmers
• Chambers of Commerce
• Rotary, Lions, Probus, etc
• Trade Unions
• MNZ and other motorsport organisations

Do you seriously think they would give an iota about Kiwibiker rego/ flouro rumblings ?,( if they have ever heard of kiwibiker)

[Hitcher]

Do you seriously think they would give an iota about Kiwibiker rego/ flouro rumblings ?,( if they have ever heard of kiwibiker)

Good grief. We're talking about political activism and promoting awareness of issues that affect motorcyclists. Kiwi Biker has little to do with that. Many of us are members of clubs and associations, and some of us have professional relationships that we can leverage to help advance the motorcycling equity cause. If you think that this whole process hinges on Kiwi Biker, you really need to get out more.

[bikaholic]

Good grief. We're talking about political activism and promoting awareness of issues that affect motorcyclists. Kiwi Biker has little to do with that. Many of us are members of clubs and associations, and some of us have professional relationships that we can leverage to help advance the motorcycling equity cause. If you think that this whole process hinges on Kiwi Biker, you really need to get out more.

or you've change your tune from previous posts by you haven't you, so your all on board now, or for a little while?.
So now there may be some detail on groups rather than dancing around a circle, is that your idea or brians?

[Hitcher]

or you've change your tune from previous posts by you haven't you, so your all on board now, or for a little while?.
So now there may be some detail on groups rather than dancing around a circle, is that your idea or brians?

I have no idea what you're on about me changing my tune. This whole business is extremely hard work that has scant chance of making a meaningful result. That doesn't mean that there aren't people dedicated to motorcycling's cause who are working tirelessly, a bit like water dripping on a rock, on several causes of which unjust ACC levies are but one. There are folks that are better at this than me who also have way better connections. There are always risks about making assumptions about people one doesn't really know well, or people assuming that just because they've had a bright idea that nobody else has previously had the same idea.

[bikaholic]

Bend over if you must. We're still going to get it up the arse whatever position we choose.

Sorry I took this post out of context while skimming the thread.

[bikaholic]

... Kiwi Biker has little to do with that. ... If you think that this whole process hinges on Kiwi Biker, you really need to get out more.

So in your words, where does this leave Kiwibiker?