Crafar Farms?

[phill-k]

A large part of Central Otago (Queenstown included) has been bought with overseas money.

Chinese money features ... but is NOT the big player ...

Buy the businesses and anything else but not the bloody land. lease it to them but don't give up the royalty.

[phill-k]

Haven't paid a hell of a lot of attention to this BUT the creditors/mortgage holders of Crafar farms are entitled to as much of their money back as the receiver can get them and that is the receivers job so would be surprised if this wasn't the best deal on the table.

I love these experts who say iwi or Fay's consortium should be allowed to buy them without knowing the deals. As far as Fay goes does no one remember the BNZ, NZ Rail etc sales and that little thing called the "winebox". Fuck I should have been allowed to buy it 1 cent on the dollar would a a good deal for me.

For all the "experts" I have this question - how would you feel if I was offering you the best deal on your prized possession and someone told you that you couldn't sell it o me but you can sell it to John down the road who's offer was less than mine. Don't come back at me with "but this is our land" becauses it's not. It's owned by someone, in this case the banks and creditors who have effectively bought it for a loss and are entitled to sell it or the best price.

Lecture over

Fuck off you stupid pommel count this is our land

[TrentNz]

Here's an example of racism. Unthinking hostility toward an ethnic group due to ill-informed opinions based in "common knowledge" and modern mythology.

People who don't agree with Chinese investment in New Zealand are not automatically racist. They have a different opinion about what constitutes a wise long-term investment policy.

The Maoris have taken enough of our land.
they sold/traded it to us for guns and women.

[phill-k]

don't really care as-long as they don't give it back to them fuckn Maoris.

time you exported yourself this is our land. - NZer's

[EJK]

China could probably buy the whole country land if given the opportunity.

Selling NZ land to oversea country.... hmmmm... They'll probably never get it back.

P.S. Are they selling it on Trademe? What's the reserve?

[98tls]

Fuck off the bloody wanker wait antil they shaft you up the ass

Yea good one fella.New Zealanders have been shafted for years and not by the Chinese.Theres nothing worse than being shafted in your own back yard,thats if it is indeed your own back yard as you never know really eh.

[TrentNz]

Well to be honest, i dont want the maoris or any other country having NZ's land.

[mashman]

China could probably buy the whole country land if given the opportunity.

Selling NZ land to oversea country.... hmmmm... They'll probably never get it back.

Will they invade to defend it?

Anyhoo, anyone fancy a free local economy, t'would negate the need for selling the country's assets

[phill-k]

At the end of the day this is a bloody great country, most of us will never make the money those in the top 10% are who want to self indulge but forget the country and peoples that have allowed them to do well. Maori, Pakaha, who really cares so long as we own it and maintain the country we have. We have not crashed and burned like so many others in these turbulent times. Yes business isn't as good as it has been but it will come back, we can still ride, the weathers good, the roads are ok and this is the best fucken place in the world to live!

[vifferman]

The Maoris have taken enough of our land.
they sold/traded it to us for guns and women.

Really? You should check your source of facts more carefully. A lot of it was 'sold' to immigrants without any consultation with the owners. In some cases, the gummint passed laws in contravention of a binding, signed agreement they had with the owners (effectively making those laws meaningless), so that it appeared they had the right to sell it, take it into gummint ownership, or confiscate it. In other cases, they dreamed up bogus reasons for confiscation, and killed, drve off or imprisoned the lawful owners when they objected.
In some cases, they actually bought it fairly, but not at a fair price. Perhaps in a few cases, there may have been land sold/traded for guns and other trinkets, but I think you'll find there are few of those.

In any case - you'd think given the past apalling history of crappy, ill-considered land deals, the gummint would be more careful. However, as has been pointed out, there are those in the current (and past) government that are self-serving and don't intend to be here if the country is fuktover by foreign owners...

[FJRider]

Buy the businesses and anything else but not the bloody land. lease it to them but don't give up the royalty.

All staff in ALL those business's pay tax ... and ALL customers pay GST.

Foreign owned business's are well supported by their own nationals ... more so than Kiwi customers ...

A lot of those foreign business owners are ALREADY NZ citizens anyway. WHERE the money originated is of little importance ... NOW ...

[Indiana_Jones]

your gonna have to be a bit more specific than that mate............wheres NZ chinatown then?

NZ's Asia town is Bucklame.

When in East Tamaki the other day I was playing spot the honkey lol

-Indy

[98tls]

At the end of the day this is a bloody great country, most of us will never make the money those in the top 10% are who want to self indulge but forget the country and peoples that have allowed them to do well. Maori, Pakaha, who really cares so long as we own it and maintain the country we have. We have not crashed and burned like so many others in these turbulent times. Yes business isn't as good as it has been but it will come back, we can still ride, the weathers good, the roads are ok and this is the best fucken place in the world to live!

We own itSo the $2.5 billion (last time i looked) was what a gift to ourselves?Having a bbq here tonight and theres a Maori bloke out on the patio wants to know if you have seen his share,or at least some ownership papers.

[Motu]

It will give much needed employment opportunities to hundreds of unemployed Asians. The salesman in our agricultural department is looking forward to his Mandarin lessons...and increased commission from extra sales.

[Zamiam]

"Feel" has nothing to do with it. More often it is achieved by fait accompli with little regard to the law, particularly when foreign political and economic drivers motivate the process. New Zealand has little to no economic influence, and our Government appears to be motivated by the long-term self-interest of its politicians, not what is best for the country as a whole, both acknowledged cultures inclusive.

Very easy to take the high ground / "ideal" when it's not your money the government wouldn't be allowing you o get back.