(Video) Katman bait

**oldrider** · 29th January 2012, 07:39

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Come on man, the answer is bleeding obvious isn't it? Slow enough so that if someone pulls out in front of you like that, you can stop. What other speed is there?

I'll give you an example of where it's perfectly legal to travel at 50km/h but horribly dangerous. Dual lane road with the two lanes of traffic heading in the same direction. At an intersection ahead for some reason all the traffic that is waiting at the red light is in the left lane. So you, quite legally, travel up the right lane at an acceptable 50km/h. Chances are, some tired impatient car driver, or just simply someone who spies an empty lane, pulls out in your path cutting you off. WTF? You were doing the legal speed limit you curse, not even lane splitting. Yet here you lie on the side of the road while the car driver inspects his front guard and receives a small slap on the wrist from the police.

Tell me, what speed was the safe speed to travel down that empty lane with all that idling traffic sitting there? Sure, the limit is 50. But that doesn't mean it was the right speed.

Personal responsibility?.... Defensive driving? .... Self protection from idiots?

A bit like indignantly claiming you are in the right when you fall into the mincer at the freezing works because there was no guard rail FFS!

**Scuba_Steve** · 29th January 2012, 08:13

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

what seems to be missed here is not just the differential between the moving speed... even if you say a reasonable 15-20kph faster, that dosent mean lane splitting at 90k's when others are doing 70.
I'll repeat an earlier section... once the road speed reaches 50kph, it ISNT slow moving traffic any longer, and you should be back into the traffic stream, not lane splitting.

And as I pointed out the traffic in that vid is sub 50km/h probably around 20km/h in the left lane while the right lane is stopped

**DMNTD:Me** · 29th January 2012, 08:44

Originally Posted by TrentNz

Gap of traffic means nothing
he passed another gap of traffic beforehand.. oh look no one turned into their how strange

Stick to dirt bikes bro...you know jack shit about road riding.

**p.dath** · 29th January 2012, 08:49

Originally Posted by oldrider

Personal responsibility?.... Defensive driving? .... Self protection from idiots?

A bit like indignantly claiming you are in the right when you fall into the mincer at the freezing works because there was no guard rail FFS!

You don't die because there was a guard rail missing; you die because you put yourself into a position where you could fall into a mincer. Wouldn't it be simpler not to put yourself in that position of danger - rather than looking to blame someone else for not keeping your life safe?

It's your life. Why wouldn't you take steps to protect it? Why would you put your life into someone else's hands if you didn't need to?

**NONONO** · 29th January 2012, 09:17

Originally Posted by caseye

The Fuckwit GOT all he deserved and was lucky not to have been killed. I'm sick of seeing fucking idiots who lane split when traffic is moving, full stop. This guy had more time than most to see and react, but Oh No he's a biker and he's coming through. Dickhead!
Katmans message is perfectly understandable it';s just that so many of you testosterone'd young pups still don't get it.
It is YOU (or worse, some poor innocent other) who dies when in the right and taking on a cage/truck or bus.

Jeez Cas, you sure you're on the right forum? Testosterone? Young? Pup?

**DMNTD:Me** · 29th January 2012, 09:20

Originally Posted by p.dath

You don't die because there was a guard rail missing; you die because you put yourself into a position where you could fall into a mincer. Wouldn't it be simpler not to put yourself in that position of danger - rather than looking to blame someone else for not keeping your life safe?

It's your life. Why wouldn't you take steps to protect it? Why would you put your life into someone else's hands if you didn't need to?

As I read it, you'd be saying that it's better to park your bike up and never ride to avoid the chance of potential harm?

Surely there would be nothing wrong working without a 'guard rail' if you took the correct precautions and took on some personal responsibility?

**flyingcrocodile46** · 29th January 2012, 12:10

Fuck me you lot who are bashing the motorcycists are wankers. Yes he should have braked a tad earlier (if he did at all) but the ute driver gave no indication that he was going to change lane and when he did he swerved over FAST (he didn't make a gradual change he just fucking swerved). The ute driver was a cunt and deserved a good bashing. Just like a bunch of you cocks.

Doesn't matter whether you are alert or not, sometimes the actions of others are going to fuck you up no matter what you do, if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was one of those occasions.

The traffic was moving slowly in the left lane and stationary in the right lane. It seems to me that these rapid and reckless lane changes by cages happen a lot more frequently in the slower moving traffic so I don't see that the traffic speed has so much to do with the accidents occuring as the damage likely to occur (due to other traffic moving faster).

Just because you are too scared to lane split in moving traffic it doesn't mean that the rest of the world has to cut their nuts off and join you wedged between the front an rear bumpers of cars over which you have no control. Who's fucking fault is it if the car in front of you brakes and the one behind doesn't and you get squished as a result? following your retarded logic it is your own fucking fault for being stupid enough to ride behind of and in front of fucking retards who have no business driving on the road (just like the fucking ute driver).

Fuck you and your shrivelled little balls. Stick to cages you pussies.

**onearmedbandit** · 29th January 2012, 12:18

Well that's one opinion. Giving the driver a bash might take a while though, as it takes a few weeks for broken bones to heal lol.

**GrayWolf** · 29th January 2012, 12:36

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

Fuck me you lot who are bashing the motorcycists are wankers. Yes he should have braked a tad earlier (if he did at all) but the ute driver gave no indication that he was going to change lane and when he did he swerved over FAST (he didn't make a gradual change he just fucking swerved). The ute driver was a cunt and deserved a good bashing. Just like a bunch of you cocks.

Doesn't matter whether you are alert or not, sometimes the actions of others are going to fuck you up no matter what you do, if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was one of those occasions.

The traffic was moving slowly in the left lane and stationary in the right lane. It seems to me that these rapid and reckless lane changes by cages happen a lot more frequently in the slower moving traffic so I don't see that the traffic speed has so much to do with the accidents occuring as the damage likely to occur (due to other traffic moving faster).

Which is exactly why we have the onus of SELF PRESERVATION on us, to expect the wankers in cages, (to borrow your colourfull anglo saxon) to perform stupid, un-indicated and thoughtless manouvers.
Lets try an example? If you entered a field of cows with a Bull present, would you just walk aimlessly through the herd, OR would you take steps and measures to 'protect' yourself from harm by said Bull? That Bull isn't going to operate on your expectations, other than to expect it to wanna toss you in the air a few times if it gets pissed off. Treat lane splitting with the same 'concern' and you are in a better survival position.(

Just because you are too scared to lane split in moving traffic it doesn't mean that the rest of the world has to cut their nuts off and join you wedged between the front an rear bumpers of cars over which you have no control. Who's fucking fault is it if the car in front of you brakes and the one behind doesn't and you get squished as a result? following your retarded logic it is your own fucking fault for being stupid enough to ride behind of and in front of fucking retards who have no business driving on the road (just like the fucking ute driver).

Spoken like a true KB'er

Fuck you and your shrivelled little balls. Stick to cages you pussies.

Sorry I don't own a car... ooooops, guess I must be a pussy biker, huh?

**flyingcrocodile46** · 29th January 2012, 12:50

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

Which is exactly why we have the onus of SELF PRESERVATION on us, to expect the wankers in cages, (to borrow your colourfull anglo saxon) to perform stupid, un-indicated and thoughtless manouvers.
Lets try an example? If you entered a field of cows with a Bull present, would you just walk aimlessly through the herd, OR would you take steps and measures to 'protect' yourself from harm by said Bull? That Bull isn't going to operate on your expectations, other than to expect it to wanna toss you in the air a few times if it gets pissed off. Treat lane splitting with the same 'concern' and you are in a better survival position.
Sorry I don't own a car... ooooops, guess I must be a pussy biker, huh?

Treat riding anywhere in the traffic with the same concern (not just lane splitting) and you will be better off. My point is that the rider in the video did very little wrong and still he is painted as reckless by the tards at KB when clearly the ute driver was in the wrong. As I said in my earlier post 'if you are riding between the front and rear bumpers of cars you are just as (if not more) vulnerable to acts by idiots in front of and behind you. Are all the KB cocks going to serve you up with lectures like this if you find yourself squished in such a position? I doubt it, yet it is just as relevant.

Keep a proper following distance and you'll be right I hear someone say? Try it and see how you go. You will soon find you need a reverse gear to maintain the following gap as cages keep streaming into the gap in front of you.

**Kickaha** · 29th January 2012, 12:55

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

My point is that the rider in the video did very little wrong and still he is painted as reckless by the tards at KB when clearly the ute driver was in the wrong.

I bet he's happy as all fuck to be lying on the ground broken body and broken bike and thinking "I'm in the right"

**sinfull** · 29th January 2012, 17:08

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

When I was doing a lot of riding in and around London after a while I developed the ability to pick out vehicles suddenly turing across ones path some way ahead. As Katman said the initial warning signals were NOT the vehicle but the space to its right and indeed the space in front of any vehicle you cant see.

Perhaps in the situation the video shows, a clue may have been the way the ute driver was weaving a little AFTER he came up to the first truck in that sandwich ! Would have told a hell story to me as i rode up at twice the pace of everybody else !

Fuckin squid without a clue i say !

**cheshirecat** · 29th January 2012, 17:11

Originally Posted by sinfull

Fuckin squid without a clue i say !

Well that as well.

**sinfull** · 29th January 2012, 17:15

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

Treat riding anywhere in the traffic with the same concern (not just lane splitting) and you will be better off. My point is that the rider in the video did very little wrong and still he is painted as reckless by the tards at KB when clearly the ute driver was in the wrong. As I said in my earlier post 'if you are riding between the front and rear bumpers of cars you are just as (if not more) vulnerable to acts by idiots in front of and behind you. Are all the KB cocks going to serve you up with lectures like this if you find yourself squished in such a position? I doubt it, yet it is just as relevant.

Keep a proper following distance and you'll be right I hear someone say? Try it and see how you go. You will soon find you need a reverse gear to maintain the following gap as cages keep streaming into the gap in front of you.

You my friend are an idiot !