World lacks enough food, fuel as population soars

**mashman** · 2nd February 2012, 18:02

Originally Posted by Winston001

1. Mesopotamia, the cradle of civilisation developed cities and agriculture over 1500 years and then virtually disappeared over 150 years. They ran out of resources.

2. The Mayan civilisation flourished until they overcrowded their region and collapsed in 100 years.

3. Easter Island. This is the poster child for societal demise. It is a perfect example of the problem you raise Puddytat. A community living on a remote island, good soil, plenty of seafood, trees etc the population just kept getting bigger. They were so wealthy in resources that these people had the time and energy to sculpt the massive Moai found on Easter Island.

From some of what I have read and seen on the box the Maya poisoned their water sources with sacrifices. As for the others, did they have artificial light? Greenhouses to protect food from the weather? Hydroponics? Aquaponics? Plastics? They might have made a difference?

**puddytat** · 2nd February 2012, 20:25

Yeah, we mus'nt forget that we have evolved somewhat & that we have had in the last 50 years a huge leap forward in Science & technology, alot of which unfortuanately has been used for the purpose of killing each other.

So we have the tools to do the job,but our ego's get in the way as well as our nads.....

**oneofsix** · 2nd February 2012, 20:39

What an egotistic bunch of fukwits we are. The world has enough food and fuel, its humans what might have a problem. We will just become the worlds the food and fuel when we become extinct but until the cosmos decides that the this hunk of rock should no longer be the world will continue. Animals will come and go and the world may change.

**mashman** · 2nd February 2012, 20:57

engaging brain would be an interesting start...

**neels** · 2nd February 2012, 21:09

The real answer is that there is not enough food/fuel/water if people keep consuming at the current rate. While a small percentage of the world population consume the majority of the worlds resources this will continue to be true.

Add to that the growing middle classes in India and China who want what we have got, probably fair considering they actually make most of it for the western world.

Brings to mind the idea of demolishing perfectly liveable houses in christchurch, when there are people desperate for somewhere to live. Western world logic at it's best.

**Oblivion** · 2nd February 2012, 21:24

Originally Posted by neels

Brings to mind the idea of demolishing perfectly liveable houses in christchurch, when there are people desperate for somewhere to live. Western world logic at it's best.

That is quite true. Was rightly pissed off when I heard that they were building a stadium in Christchurch, when there are thousands of people without a home. What the hell are these people thinking......

**SMOKEU** · 2nd February 2012, 21:27

Originally Posted by Oblivion

What the hell are these people thinking......

Of that nice beach house or BMW they will be able to afford with all the extra money procured from bribery and corruption.

**scracha** · 2nd February 2012, 22:14

Originally Posted by puddytat

news.yahoo.com/world-lacks-enough-food-fuel-population-soars-un-151012418.html

So what are we going to do about it.

Destroying Christchurch would be a good start.....oh...wait.........god tried that

**jonbuoy** · 3rd February 2012, 04:15

I'm sure there is enough to go around, its just poorly managed. Africa should be a rich country, huge natural recources, tourism etc... Problem is most African governments are fucked in the head.

**Kickaha** · 3rd February 2012, 05:57

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

.. Problem is most African governments are fucked in the head.

Zimbabwe is a classic example of that, once an exporter to the rest of the contitnent now the country is well fucked

**jonbuoy** · 3rd February 2012, 09:10

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Zimbabwe is a classic example of that, once an exporter to the rest of the contitnent now the country is well fucked

Now another one looking for handouts while the government syphon off what it can into swiss bank accounts.

**Paul in NZ** · 3rd February 2012, 10:33

Originally Posted by neels

Add to that the growing middle classes in India and China who want what we have got, probably fair considering they actually make most of it for the western world..

They are getting it too - cancer, diabetes, asthma etc.....

**mashman** · 3rd February 2012, 16:23

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

I'm sure there is enough to go around, its just poorly managed. Africa should be a rich country, huge natural recources, tourism etc... Problem is most African governments are fucked in the head.

Or so indebted to western nations that they can have billions of $$$ wiped off their debt and still only just able to make the interest payments. Corporations own anything of value in Africa and non of the corporations are African. Badly managed, pah, I think given the shit they're in they're doing remarkably well.