Demerit points hiked for unlicensed vehicles

[Subike]

You own personalised plates. But they must be assigned a vehicle. UN-assigned plates are effectivly dead plates .... If Confiscated, and destroyed ... and NOT in the system ... they could be RE-made ...

Those with plates they want to keep on their vehicle ... should be the one's taking the greasest care to see they are not taken.

you do not have to assign p plates to a vehicle
you can own them and never put them on a vehicle
they are yours

as for std plates, they are owned by the state and can be recalled at anytime if they wish

the logistics of this proposal is so crazy, it would be impracticable to work

to fuck the system, all it would need to happen is for you to put your vehicle on hold on friday, hand in the plates, then reg it on monday and demand them back
totally legit

If a few hundred people do this, think of it

[FJRider]

the logistics of this proposal is so crazy, it would be impracticable to work

to fuck the system, all it would need to happen is for you to put your vehicle on hold on friday, hand in the plates, then reg it on monday and demand them back
totally legit

If a few hundred people do this, think of it

I did say in my post you own the plates.

Here's the link if you havent read it ...

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/v...-prevent-fraud

From the link.

That’s unfair to other law-abiding motorists. Demerit points can act as a stronger deterrent than fines as repeat offenders will face the loss of their drivers licence,” says Mr Joyce.

Other steps taken include allowing the NZ Transport Agency to require people to surrender licence plates when putting their licensing on hold or to decline an application to put licensing on hold when a person has abused this right in the past.

They are allowed to require the surrrender of the licence plates (if they see fit). Not a requirement of their surrender as an automatic requirement.

[Subike]

yup fair enough trev

[scumdog]

As I recall ... the wording is MAY be required ... in other words ... it is STILL an option they have if they choose.

I can't be naffed looking through the rest of the thread BUT my understanding is that only those that repeatedly (usually those dastardly boirazirs) drive around with their rego on hold will be asked to hand their plates in - for obvious reasons.

[scumdog]

If a few hundred people do this, think of it

Hey Dave, this IS New Zealand - most of the times the population can't even organise a piss-up in a brewery...

[FJRider]

I can't be naffed looking through the rest of the thread BUT my understanding is that only those that repeatedly (usually those dastardly boirazirs) drive around with their rego on hold will be asked to hand their plates in - for obvious reasons.

I quoted a quote from Mr Joyce on that very part in post #392 of this thread.

It was my interpretation of the change was that NZTA do have options ... for those that abuse the system, the options may not be to their liking.



Oh dear, how sad, never mind ... my heart bleeds ...

[Coldrider]

I quoted a quote from Mr Joyce on that very part in post #392 of this thread.

It was my interpretation of the change was that NZTA do have options ... for those that abuse the system, the options may not be to their liking.



Oh dear, how sad, never mind ... my heart bleeds ...

when a poli opens his mouth to fix a hole, he generally creates a bigger one (with tonsils on display).

[mashman]

Is ACC expensive enough that they can compete with insurers on a level playing field yet? Every cloud has a silver lining, sometimes they add a cherry on top too. Enjoy your fruit.

[Road kill]

It is a fair place bro. Fair to who? Fair to the fucking govt, thats who.

The only time it will be fair to you or I is when we tell them to stick their rules up their arse. Until that time, they will arbitrarily continue to make rules that pull money out of your and my pockets to grease their arse with.

The quicker everyone does it the better, and if we DO all do it they can never win.

Not a crack at you mate,but good luck with that.
I own one bike,,an budget to pay the rego' in six month blocks in spite of the fact I don't agree with the system.
If we all did what you want,I'd lose my job in very short order.
Your stand united ideal may sound good to you,,but I bet your not willing to pay my bills or feed my family when it all went pear shaped because I supported you to the point of non compliance.
The cost of non compliance to myself my family and thousands of others is simply not a starter.
Sorry.

[Kornholio]

Not a crack at you mate,but good luck with that.
I own one bike,,an budget to pay the rego' in six month blocks in spite of the fact I don't agree with the system.
If we all did what you want,I'd lose my job in very short order.
Your stand united ideal may sound good to you,,but I bet your not willing to pay my bills or feed my family when it all went pear shaped because I supported you to the point of non compliance.
The cost of non compliance to myself my family and thousands of others is simply not a starter.
Sorry.

Don't worry man, the dude trying to give you advice is none other than this guy...

Ring a ding a ding ding...

[The Pastor]

So we will only add demerits for safety offences. >_<

[GrayWolf]

I did say in my post you own the plates.

Here's the link if you havent read it ...

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/v...-prevent-fraud

From the link.

That’s unfair to other law-abiding motorists. Demerit points can act as a stronger deterrent than fines as repeat offenders will face the loss of their drivers licence,” says Mr Joyce.

Other steps taken include allowing the NZ Transport Agency to require people to surrender licence plates when putting their licensing on hold or to decline an application to put licensing on hold when a person has abused this right in the past.

They are allowed to require the surrrender of the licence plates (if they see fit). Not a requirement of their surrender as an automatic requirement.

Really what did/does anyone expect? lets cut to the chase, there has been several KB'rs who have openly done and encourage not registering a bike. TPTB are not dumb, they will have guessed there is a good selection of recidivist non rego'ers out there... All they are doing is closing a part of the 'loophole'. I am not worried by this at all, as I am sure the vast majority of Rego paying KB'rs wont be either.

[FJRider]

So we will only add demerits for safety offences. >_<

If the rules were followed from the start ... they most likely would have. The numbers that are known to have attempted to not register their vehicle ... and still ride/drive ... will pay the price when caught.

The ability to put a vehicle on hold will be removed. (as well as fines and demerits)

[BoristheBiter]

Really what did/does anyone expect? lets cut to the chase, there has been several KB'rs who have openly done and encourage not registering a bike. TPTB are not dumb, they will have guessed there is a good selection of recidivist non rego'ers out there... All they are doing is closing a part of the 'loophole'. I am not worried by this at all, as I am sure the vast majority of Rego paying KB'rs wont be either.

My diesel rego are just as high as my bikes so to think that TPTB really care about a few bike regos on hold is being a bit precious.
They are targeting the even bigger number of cars that are on hold or have the wrong rego as to avoid higher fees.

[GrayWolf]

My diesel rego are just as high as my bikes so to think that TPTB really care about a few bike regos on hold is being a bit precious.
They are targeting the even bigger number of cars that are on hold or have the wrong rego as to avoid higher fees.

If youd read my post I said recidivist rego non payers, I just pointed out (as this is a bike forum, not a diesel forum) that there are several riders who openly encourage and do, ride without paying... Precious? just call me Gollum son.