Welfare support and drug testing

[tigertim20]

Yes for the student allowance, but I'm not at home all day smoking buds or out causing shit, or getting bitches knocked up. Once I get my diploma I plan on paying it all back + interest in the form of taxes. I don't plan on being a student for the rest of my life, and I should be qualified by the end of next year.

glad to hear it, sometimes you market yourself as someone who might sit at home smoking buds!
whats your diploma in?

Better test that Fast Eddie cunt as well while they're at it

Hmm, good idea, if we find he fails the test, I will seize his bikes under the proceeds of crime act - Im keen on the smoker, you want a sidecar thingeemebob or a blade?

[Akzle]

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug out there.

alcohol isn't actually a drug. it's a neuro-toxin. the "effects" you feel is your body fighting the toxin.
similar symptoms can be achieved with malaria, meningitis, or snake bites, scorpion stings etc.

Why should either be tax payer funded?

why should anyone be taxed?


those that get the biggest handouts from tax "payers" are politicians.
unemployment pays 160$/week, (less than 10k$/pa) then everything purchased is pre-taxed.
while shit-for brains back benchers (name one, go on...) start on 50-60k with perks like free travel, tax deductable "working" holidays, and an expenditure account.

[Flip]

There always have been and there will always be dope smoking loosers.

I don't see what all the anxt is about?

[Big Dave]

Anxt - what Hitler did to the Sudetenland.

[Flip]

Anxt- what dope does to your brain.

[Big Dave]

:-)

[Madness]

Anxt- what dope does to my brain.

Speak for yourself, sonny!

[skippa1]

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much... so what you're saying is that it's ok as long as you have an acceptable social status. The FACT that there aren't enough jobs doesn't factor

, so that excuses using tax payer money for drugs?

the FACT that a large percentage of bene's aren't long term bene's doesn't factor (12,000 from recent reading are, how many are unemployed?),

again, a valid reason to spend tax payer money on drugs?

the FACT that some people have to be unemployed to help to keep inflation at bay doesn't factor,

ahhh the reason for spending tax payer money, I dont think so,

the FACT that these many Bene's are likely more intelligent than you doesn't factor

,you base ths "fact" on what exactly?

the FACT that plenty of Bene's were once high earners who can't get back into the workforce because of wage requirements doesn't factor,

again, based on what fact?,

the FACT that plenty of these dumbfucks are likely highly intelligent doesn't factor

, not even sure what you are saying here,

possibly plenty more facts that you won't allow to get in the way of a good story...

I havent seen any facts yet, just a whole lot of twisted supposition based on your need to convince others that smoking pot is an acceptable use of tax payer money

and all to target a minority who spend the money they receive in a way they choose to?

actually, its not "the" money, its tax payer money. Tax payer money.

Doesn't exactly inspire me to believe that the mind is any wider than a japs eye. How dare they try to entertain themselves

Yes, how dare they spend tax payer money on entertaining themselves with an illegal pastime

...and Portugal went fully legal and drug abuse/use has dropped. As for Amsterdam, tis hardly surprising given that it's as cheap as chips to get there and it services the Entire European community. Funny thing is, from my experiences of Amsterdam, it was the piss 'eads causing all of the trouble. Yes I do want to attract tourists based on a drug policy... rather that than people out on the piss. It's 1 part of a future that I'd hope for this country, but it would seem that some of you need to grow up a bit first and stop being so precious

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And then you come with the same old excuse that always come up, piss is worse than pot. Guess what Einstein, the whole thread is about spending tax payer money on drugs. Not what you think the worse of two evils are, which is totally irrelevant.

[nodrog:Me]

Only users lose drugs.

[Big Dave]

Only users lose drugs.

But it's OK - they don't remember.

[blue rider]

Before any money gets spend on treating all "welfare recipients" as criminals, I would like to finally see some programme propoesed by the current government that actually generates jobs with livable wages. That would actually reduce the number of welfare dependents.

Seriously are we so full of envy and discontent that some schmuck from the government can sell us our neighbors, family members, colleagues etc as drug abusing criminals that need to be tested before they can apply for a benefit, should they need help?

What a sorry state of the nation.

[onearmedbandit]

And then you cose with the same old excuse that always come up, piss is worse than pot. Guess what Einstein, the whole thread is about spending tax payer money on drugs. Not what you think the worse of two evils are, which is totally irrelevant.

Why isn't it also about those that use their dole money to buy alcohol? Yes I realise it's not the issue at hand. But why not? Sure it could be considered to hard to test for, maybe you should only be able to buy alcohol if you have a valid 'employed' card.

[MIXONE]

i work fulltime and I still can't afford drugs.

[blue rider]

Why isn't it also about those that use their dole money to buy alcohol? Yes I realise it's not the issue at hand. But why not? Sure it could be considered to hard to test for, maybe you should only be able to buy alcohol if you have a valid 'employed' card.

employed card is not good enough. it needs to show that you actually has paid tax.
after all we are being sold this little programme to prevent abuse of taxpayers money.

so the card one needs to buy alcohol, any type of entertainment, fatty foods, and cigarettes is a "has paid tax" card.

[skippa1]

Why isn't it also about those that use their dole money to buy alcohol? Yes I realise it's not the issue at hand. But why not? Sure it could be considered to hard to test for, maybe you should only be able to buy alcohol if you have a valid 'employed' card.

actually, I agree entirely. There are some luxuries that should be excluded for those getting tax payer funded help. In actual fact, I think that the dole is not high enough to help when you consider that $160/wk isnt going to cover rent let alone food etc. If there were less people abusing the system we could raise the available allowance for the genuine needy.