MotoGP 2012

[pritch]

You have to remember that while good 'ol boys and rednecks are similar, they are not the same.

I think they are the same people. They would describe themselves as good ol' boys, others might call them rednecks. But probably not to their face?

[Bender]

Nonetheless the guy that won the championship finished first or second in every single race except the one he was taken out in , he accumulated the most points. Sure not as fast as Stoner around Phillip Island but a well rounded champion because he knows how to finish races and relentlessly keep accumulating points. A better employee I would have to say. He also withstood relentless pressure from Honda upping the ante mid season on, because they hate losing. He didnt get much help from Spies so he had to handle such pressure almost single handedly.
The best man won and on a bike that mid season on was clearly a little inferior to the Hondas.

Trouble is, he's batshit boring.

[imdying]

Can't disagree there Robert... he might not have been the top rider, but he was the top racer

[HenryDorsetCase]

A. Stoner is like an axe murderer with the smell of blood on his radar.

I LOLed at this.

I just cannot imagine being that good. My little 400 on track (55 hp or so) is enough for me.... I simply cannot imagine coping with all the shit they have to deal with. They're called aliens for good reason in my view.

[Robert Taylor]

Can't disagree there Robert... he might not have been the top rider, but he was the top racer

The reality also is though that not everyone that watches MotoGP or any form of road racing is specifically there just to watch the riders. Its also often about manufacturer preferences, both machine and componentry. And the technology, often if a bike is way out front it has as much to do with the engineers doing a very good job.

[merv]

Yeah agree there Robert and it seems to me over the years even back with the 2 strokes Yamaha did seem to have a reputation for sweet handling bikes whereas Honda's forte has always been its awesome engines that just have that edge. Now if only someone could successfully meld the two - now he would be an ace engineer.

[Brian d marge]

I LOLed at this.

I just cannot imagine being that good. My little 400 on track (55 hp or so) is enough for me.... I simply cannot imagine coping with all the shit they have to deal with. They're called aliens for good reason in my view.

Fittness , and progression up to it , I could possibly maybe ( oh please if there is a god , give me a chance !) get one to almost full throttle for say a long straight , or even give it berries for 1 lap (I doubt it )

but lap after lap after lap , within an inch ......

Hats are well and truely off , they deserve it.

Stephen

and Im reasonably fit for me age,,,,

[MIXONE]

Stephen

and Im reasonably fit for me age,,,,

Well preseved in alcohol too....

[Robert Taylor]

Yeah agree there Robert and it seems to me over the years even back with the 2 strokes Yamaha did seem to have a reputation for sweet handling bikes whereas Honda's forte has always been its awesome engines that just have that edge. Now if only someone could successfully meld the two - now he would be an ace engineer.

I think Crasher summed up some of the mentality of what probably most spectators expect when he used the term ''axe murderer'' ( referring to Moaner ) As a basis of comparison Jorge has to then be a surgeon.

Ive cited the example in the past, there is often a Harley that turns up at Paeroa, its got stock ''gap fillers'' on it ( suspension ) and the guy rides it pretty hard. Its a crowd pleaser because he wobbles his way around the track and the thing is seriously out of shape everywhere due to almost total lack of damping control. Im sure the rider is a character and a really nice guy.

But for an engineer to watch it you just shake your head and think how much faster he would go with suspension that actually works! Of course it would then to most people look rather boring!

[BMWST?]

The reality also is though that not everyone that watches MotoGP or any form of road racing is specifically there just to watch the riders. Its also often about manufacturer preferences, both machine and componentry. And the technology, often if a bike is way out front it has as much to do with the engineers doing a very good job.

agreed.For me moto gp is more complete.I can identify with Honda,Yamaha,and Ducati.And each bike seems to have a character relating to the company and or my idea of the company...Kalex,Suter,etc,not so much.

[merv]

Too true, I have little interest in Moto2 as I can't relate to the bikes.

[Reckless]

Too true, I have little interest in Moto2 as I can't relate to the bikes.

I under stand what your sayin merv but it is some of the best racing you will see

[merv]

Yeah well I happily watch it on the free to air a week later but only while I'm waiting for the real Hondas and Yamahas to race afterwards.

[tail_end_charlie]

Too true, I have little interest in Moto2 as I can't relate to the bikes.

See, I'm the opposite. I don't really care who wins between Yamaha, Honda or Ducati (though I would like to see Ducati win so that there is more compitition), I don't really identify with these huge manufactures. What I like to see is some Tom, Dick or Harry out there able to make a bike that can win a WC. Now granted, I know that Suter, Kalex, FTX, ect arn't some guy working out of his shop in the backyard, but they also sure as hell arn't the huge faceless manufactures.

And yes, I know I'll probably catch some shit about always rooting for the little guy.

But hey, if no one believes that they can go out there and do it themselves, who would try in the first place?

[Cleve]

For those (idiots) who say Lorenzo is boring.
Read this. The thoughts on Lorenzo by Matt Oxley. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...ol-as-it-gets/