Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[PrincessBandit]

Nobody's asking you to support it and I don't think anyone has suggested that by not supporting it you're somehow weird.

Are you suggesting that statements like "all stoners are losers" shows any degree of open mindedness though?

Not at all. I'm just surprised at the (by way of extrapolation) a person - whom we know next to nothing about (we know 3 facts: female, 18yo, and a daughter) - is being torn to shreds here over an action that we have no way of knowing exactly what precipitated it.

The ensuing ranting and raving is directed at her actions of "narking on her parents" rather than a lack of support of weed growing/smoking/eating. This I am aware of. It's just curious that those of us who are not siding with the she's-a-fucking-nark-bitch-who-deserves-a-lifetime-of-(insert whatever fate one likes) definitely seem to be seen as the weirdos here by some. In hindsight I think I can live with that though; I've never been afraid to be seriously uncool or considered a sheep (rather be a sheep than one of the goats!)

[oneofsix]

Not at all. I'm just surprised at the (by way of extrapolation) a person - whom we know next to nothing about (we know 3 facts: female, 18yo, and a daughter) - is being torn to shreds here over an action that we have no way of knowing exactly what precipitated it.

The ensuing ranting and raving is directed at her actions of "narking on her parents" rather than a lack of support of weed growing/smoking/eating. This I am aware of. It's just curious that those of us who are not siding with the she's-a-fucking-nark-bitch-who-deserves-a-lifetime-of-(insert whatever fate one likes) definitely seem to be seen as the weirdos here by some. In hindsight I think I can live with that though; I've never been afraid to be seriously uncool or considered a sheep (rather be a sheep than one of the goats!)

So what you are saying Princess is that for the sake of 2 and only 2 plants that you would be happy that your kids (young adults), which you had given the unsupervised run of your property to with their friends are right to air your laundry in public rather than speak to you first? Even if she had destroyed the plants and spoken to her parents it would have been fine. There is so much to this and little of it to do with the weed itself, relatively harmless by evidence even though I don't and never will use. The main issue for me is the Stazi informant bit. If they had had a stack of weapons, a P lab even or were producing kiddie porn then that would change my opinion as those have potential for real uncontrolled harm, P labs tend to blow up after all.

[PrincessBandit]

So what you are saying Princess is that for the sake of 2 and only 2 plants that you would be happy that your kids (young adults), which you had given the unsupervised run of your property to with their friends are right to air your laundry in public rather than speak to you first? Even if she had destroyed the plants and spoken to her parents it would have been fine. There is so much to this and little of it to do with the weed itself, relatively harmless by evidence even though I don't and never will use. The main issue for me is the Stazi informant bit. If they had had a stack of weapons, a P lab even or were producing kiddie porn then that would change my opinion as those have potential for real uncontrolled harm, P labs tend to blow up after all.

I think this conversation is going to end up going in circles. We don't know all the facts. Maybe there have been more plants in the past. Maybe she hates her parents guts (for some other reason). Maybe maybe maybe maybe.

But hey, this is the kb kangaroo court - we like to shoot first, bury the dead, then ask questions later.

In answer to your question, in case you think I'm avoiding it: first of all it wouldn't happen because I don't use or grow; second if I'm indulging in something that regardless of my opinion of whether it's harmless/useful/none of anyone else's damned business what i do is unlawful then I do it if full knowledge that it could come back to bite me in the arse one day. I go about my business prepared to take the rap if it comes down to that.

[PrincessBandit]

Oh, and would I dob anyone in? Highly unlikely. If I thought for one moment though that anyone I knew was putting others at unreasonable risk or in mortal danger by their actions (in this instance of this particular thread being pissed out of their brain and driving or being toked to the eyeballs and operating a lethal weapon - just as random, pulled-out-of-the-air examples) then I would certainly reconsider my options.

[Genie]

Being narrow-minded is very common amongst senior citizens. You're forgiven.

Those changes were not made by those who broke the law, you are correct. However, the people who broke those old laws (impossible in the case of women voting I'm assuming) were the ones who prompted discussion that ultimately lead to change. The ones who made the changes were the politicians of the time, not necessarily any more intelligent than those who broke the laws or had the gumption to question them.

Thanks again for sharing your personal experiences and opinions. It's a shame that you couldn't see what was under your own nose. Often overlooked is the fact that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's not very nice when one sides views aren't always based on actual knowledge or apparent solid reason and directly impede the other sides ability to choose for themselves.

'tis a shame sarcasm cannot be read.

[oneofsix]

I so love that opinion as it states you will accept all laws regardless of what they are, even banning of motorcycles ( for your own safety of course). You be just the sort of person governments love and societies hate. Interesting that you fell for the trolling that has gone on on both sides of this thread, or are you just out for your morning troll.

This is no court, just an on line discussion. You don't have to shout just because people disagree with you, it doesn't make your opinion any less wrong just because you type it in large bold font.

Now where did I leave my coffee?

[PrincessBandit]

I so love that opinion as it states you will accept all laws regardless of what they are, even banning of motorcycles ( for your own safety of course). You be just the sort of person governments love and societies hate. Interesting that you fell for the trolling that has gone on on both sides of this thread, or are you just out for your morning troll.

This is no court, just an on line discussion. You don't have to shout just because people disagree with you, it doesn't make your opinion any less wrong just because you type it in large bold font.

Now where did I leave my coffee?

I'm going to be magnanimous and overlook the above post. You are forgiven.





Yes, I am indulging in a little winding up before heading off to work

[Katman]

I think this conversation is going to end up going in circles. We don't know all the facts. Maybe there have been more plants in the past. Maybe she hates her parents guts (for some other reason). Maybe maybe maybe maybe.

I think you're making way too much of the original subject Dawn. This thread has moved on from there to a discussion (among other things - i.e. Ed's addiction) of the pros and cons of cannabis reform. Hey, plenty of other countries are considering it - why shouldn't we.

Just to wind you up a bit further though - yes, the girl in the OP could just as easily be a vindictive bitch who was told that she couldn't attend a party that Saturday night.

And further furthermore, there seems to be more people in this thread vilifying the parents by questioning their morals and their parenting skills and calling them criminals (simply because TPTB choose to call them criminals) than there are criticizing the daughter.

[blue rider]

how has this not been PDd?

cause we are all well spoken and civil, and this thread contains nudity!

[SMOKEU]

Why thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I sometimes miss it as I'm so narrowminded. You are indeed correct and all of those changes have been made, not by those that broke the law, more by those with the intelligence, education and gumption to work at making a change.
It is always good to question, I tell myself that every day, but, the law at the moment states that smoking/growing/selling pot is illegal. I used to think there was nothing really wrong with smoking pot, I used to smoke it and did so for many years. Since I ceased I came to realise that it is not the harmless drug I thought it once was. Amazing, how one can't see what's under one's nose, until one steps back.

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.

[Banditbandit]

53 PAGES YET !!!!

Definitely silly hats time

[bogan]

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.

And the whole women voting thing, jeez, it has been a downhill slope for a while now.

[SMOKEU]

And the whole women voting thing, jeez, it has been a downhill slope for a while now.

The age-old question still remains; what is the woman doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

[oneofsix]

The age-old question still remains; what is the woman doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

How do you know she was out of the kitchen? perhaps some careless male left his smartphone where she could reach it.

[SMOKEU]

How do you know she was out of the kitchen? perhaps some careless male left his smartphone where she could reach it.

Good point...