ANZACs and war and stuff

[Katman]

Feigned acts of terorrism to be more specific which as has been verified, was sqaushed by the Govt.

No, they were proposed acts of terrorism that most likely would have eventuated had the idea not been quashed.

Surely you're not putting GWB's level of integrity and leadership in the same category as JFK's.

[SPman]

Feigned acts of terorrism to be more specific which as has been verified, was sqaushed by the Govt.

Squashed by the Government?

Would you believe anything that came out of Govt sources?

Of course the planes hit the buildings - they were designed to be able to be hit by a fully laden 707 and still remain intact - a similar weight aircraft to the 767s or whatever that hit them. Why is this in dispute?

Firefighters who actually got to the scene of the first impact zone reported that the fires were relatively minor and could be easily handled - shortly before the building "imploded" - much to the puzzlement of the Architect and engineers who designed and built it. And reams of top engineers since. Hasty disposal (after the gold in the building was removed), shoddy official investigation and all the hallmarks of coverups at high places will always leave large room for severe doubt about official events - particularly to those who study the whole debacle....

Unless "smoking gun" papers are found, no one is going to know exactly, what went on - just that it was soooo convenient for Dubya and his backers........and a total disaster to the American population as a whole, since - whether they know it or not! Make that the world population, as the USA ramped up it's military bullying around the (brown people) world.....

[jonbuoy]

Squashed by the Government?

Would you believe anything that came out of Govt sources?

Of course the planes hit the buildings - they were designed to be able to be hit by a fully laden 707 and still remain intact - a similar weight aircraft to the 767s or whatever that hit them. Why is this in dispute?

Firefighters who actually got to the scene of the first impact zone reported that the fires were relatively minor and could be easily handled - shortly before the building "imploded" - much to the puzzlement of the Architect and engineers who designed and built it. And reams of top engineers since. Hasty disposal (after the gold in the building was removed), shoddy official investigation and all the hallmarks of coverups at high places will always leave large room for severe doubt about official events - particularly to those who study the whole debacle....

Unless "smoking gun" papers are found, no one is going to know exactly, what went on - just that it was soooo convenient for Dubya and his backers........and a total disaster to the American population as a whole, since - whether they know it or not! Make that the world population, as the USA ramped up it's military bullying around the (brown people) world.....

It wouldn't be the first time Architects and Engineers have made mistakes. Fact still remains the towers did collapse, they weren't emptied out before hand. People were inside going about their daily duties. Maybe explosives were used as well - if so why not blame the terrorists for those as well?

[Banditbandit]

You have evidence of course...

Jeez .. it's not that hard to find .. they even make TV shows about it ... the interdweb's playing up right now so I can't give you any pictures

[Katman]

Maybe explosives were used as well - if so why not blame the terrorists for those as well?

Are you serious?

Are you suggesting that the terrorists had the time and the access to rig all three buildings for demolition?

[jonbuoy]

Do you think it's possible for a special forces team to do it without anyone noticing?

[Kickaha]

i started. i tried, but i just couldn't stomach the BS

What you mean it because it didn't agree with what you've already decied it must be BS, that was only the first site I looked at there's plenty of others that debunk all the conspiracy and supposed demolition as well

Why did the engines burn up in the resulting fire? -

They didn't engines/parts were found at the scene

It wouldn't be the first time Architects and Engineers have made mistakes.

I've seen a few sites where engineers and architects saw nothing much unusual in what happened

[Katman]

Do you think it's possible for a special forces team to do it without anyone noticing?

Dude, the elevators had just undergone a massive 'upgrade'.

There was plenty of opportunity over the preceding months.

[Hinny]

I'm quite prepared to accept that planes flew into the twin towers - my eyes told me so.

Well as we have recently seen on another thread your eyes can deceive you.

Look at the footage of the planes going into the towers. Without resistance.... Like flying through a glass facade.
The construction of the WTC twin towers was that of a box within a box, The exterior box was made up of 14" box beams on 36" centres with 22" wide windows.
These steel web was made of super strength steel.
How can an Aluminium plane fly through that?
Even one that is travelling at a higher velocity than they were capable of, as one of the jets in the video appeared to do.
Also as the WTC towers were 208 feet wide the plane could not have been exiting one side of the building whilst still entering the other side as seen in the video footage shown to the world.

[Hinny]

Dude, the elevators had just undergone a massive 'upgrade'.

There was plenty of opportunity over the preceding months.

Remember the explanation for the windows being blown out on the ground floor was that Jet fuel had leaked down the elevator shafts and then exploded.
The massive upgrade to the elevators must have completely altered their original design as no elevator shafts went from the floors that were hit to the ground. They were all staggered to prevent a chimney effect in the case of a fire. In other words this explanation was complete bunkum as well.

[Hinny]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septemb...iracy_theories

"Despite these reports, the Intelligence Community did not produce any assessments of the likelihood that terrorists would use planes as weapons, and U.S. policymakers apparently remained unaware of this kind of potential threat."[10] Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger testified to the Joint Inquiry:

"We heard of the idea of planes as weapons, but I don't recall being presented with any specific threat information about an attack of this nature, or highlighting this threat, or indicating it was more likely than any other"[11]

Why would you trot out dross like this as credible evidence.

The evidence uncovered since reveals that this was not the case.
Sandy Berger may have stated this to the commission but that is irrelevant.
Not everybody has total recall.

The reason there were no aircraft to intercept the planes was that Norad was running an exercise where a highjacked plane flew into a skyscraper.
That's why so many questions have been asked .
Same scenario on several other terrorist attacks. Coincide with official exercises of the same type. London bombings for instance.
Get up with the play man.

[Laava]

no elevator shafts went from the floors that were hit to the ground. They were all staggered to prevent a chimney effect in the case of a fire. In other words this explanation was complete bunkum as well.

Would you like some facts with that?
I have been up the towers so knew that they were very impressive in their speed and will take you from level 2 to 107

[Kickaha]

Would you like some facts with that?

facts? dont be stupid we dont want no facts

[Laava]

facts? dont be stupid we dont want no facts

Yeah, sorry! What was I thinking?
It's ok tho, no-one will believe them.

[scumdog]

Once again another KB thread overloaded by too many windmill-jousters...