Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

**Mom** · 8th July 2013, 18:34

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

You mean like how he was putting on such an act at the funeral when the camera's were on him...

I think that is what sealed my mind on his guilt frankly. Impossible to be that animated while totally consumed by your grief. Yes, you cry, and yes you can smile, and laugh, but that looked to me like an amateur
theatre version of what overwhelming grief looks like.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th July 2013, 18:41

Originally Posted by Mom

I think that is what sealed my mind on his guilt frankly. Impossible to be that animated while totally consumed by your grief. Yes, you cry, and yes you can smile, and laugh, but that looked to me like an amateur
theatre version of what overwhelming grief looks like.

Wasn't even good enough for Shortland St. Didn't he have hookers again right after the funeral?

**Drew** · 8th July 2013, 18:42

Originally Posted by Mom

I think that is what sealed my mind on his guilt frankly. Impossible to be that animated while totally consumed by your grief. Yes, you cry, and yes you can smile, and laugh, but that looked to me like an amateur
theatre version of what overwhelming grief looks like.

Been trying to read up a bit before I spout off the last couple days, this is what I found regarding this specific part of his behavior.

Criminal psychologist Nigel Latta reviewed Mark Lundy's behaviour at the funeral, and noted need to be physically supported by two friends as he emerged towards the hearse, noting that he exhibited signs of what Latta described as "limb-specific grief", in which Lundy's arms were able to carry his weight, but not his legs. Latta described this behaviour by Lundy as a "wilful and deliberate act of deception".

But it's possible he was feeling completely numb, legitimately I suppose. Put on that bullshit act out of not knowing what he was meant to do?

I dunno, I wasn't there.

**Drew** · 8th July 2013, 18:46

Closer inspection.

Brain matter on his shirt, that was meant to still be inside his wife's head. Proved later than original pathology, in Texas of all places.

Mutherfucker did it!

**Mom** · 8th July 2013, 18:51

Originally Posted by Drew

But it's possible he was feeling completely numb, legitimately I suppose. Put on that bullshit act out of not knowing what he was meant to do?

I dunno, I wasn't there.

I was not there either, but I can comment on devastating grief. I have seen what happens to someone that has lost the love of their lives. I have supported them at the funerals of their mates. Twice. Both handled things completely differently, but were both bereft, utterly bereft. One male, one female. I have witnessed that total melt down, it sounds and looks so much different.

Numb grief makes you very considered in your behaviour in my own experience of it. Just get through what needs to be done, let go completely on your own, or in the company, or with the support of people that care.

I heard what Nigel Latter said about Lundy too.

I was not on the jury, but happy to call him guilty as charged and convicted!

**Drew** · 8th July 2013, 19:03

Originally Posted by Mom

I was not there either, but I can comment on devastating grief. I have seen what happens to someone that has lost the love of their lives. I have supported them at the funerals of their mates. Twice. Both handled things completely differently, but were both bereft, utterly bereft. One male, one female. I have witnessed that total melt down, it sounds and looks so much different.

Bloody melt downs.

Maori women who wail like all fuck at funerals? I mean, they go all out!

Now it always looks fake to me, but it's not like I can ever ask them about it. So I still don't know.

**awa355** · 8th July 2013, 23:07

Originally Posted by Drew

Bloody melt downs.

Maori women who wail like all fuck at funerals? I mean, they go all out!

Now it always looks fake to me, but it's not like I can ever ask them about it. So I still don't know.

No one can hold a candle to the North Koreans when it comes to PC grieving.

I guess people all have their own ways of handling death.

**korimako1** · 9th July 2013, 08:47

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Naaa .. so one small piece of evidence that was not crucial has been found to be flawed ...

Lundy did it ...

that small piece of evidence WAS the only thing that was crucial, and now we know it was flawed. all the rest was circumstantial and a load of smoke and mirrors by the cops. Hope you never have to judge me. near enough is good enough, jail for life, thanks mate.

**korimako1** · 9th July 2013, 08:54

Originally Posted by Clivoris

I've always been very suspect of the time they reckon it took to drive to the crime and back again. There is no way someone could have managed that without drawing some serious attention. We never heard about any members of the public saying they remembered being passed at speed. He would have had to hit some big speed on the open road to make up for getting out of town traffic.

yes i saw it said somewhere he must have AVERAGED speeds in excess of 150 kmph. impossible. V8 supercars cant even do that around pukekohe. To average 150 speeds in excess if 230kmph would have to be achieved in a car governed to max 180. its a load of rubbish.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th July 2013, 08:57

Originally Posted by korimako1

yes i saw it said somewhere he must have AVERAGED speeds in excess of 150 kmph. impossible. .

See post #164

**korimako1** · 9th July 2013, 08:57

Originally Posted by Maha

Thats beacuse it probably did not happen.
Na the Poilce have the right man, they have got it wrong a few times over the years but Lundy (IMO) is where he should be.

The Thomas case?... there are those that firmly beleive Len Demler did it. I dont, I beleive he knew how the Crews died but he didnt kill them. My belief is that it was Murder/Suicide....Janette killed Harvey and a few days later, killed herself.

do you know what reasonble doubt is?

**korimako1** · 9th July 2013, 09:04

Originally Posted by Oscar

Exactly.
So why did this jury find him guilty?

because they werent presented with the FACTS and the defence were MISLEAD by the police. the defence then had to make concessions which were totally wrong, and then a MISINFORMED jury made a decision on emotions not FACT.

**korimako1** · 9th July 2013, 09:06

Originally Posted by Maha

Because the prosecution had the better case?

Mark Lundys Lawyer must have sucked!!!

Mark Lundys lawyers were mislead by the Police. non disclosure is illegal.

**Drew** · 9th July 2013, 09:11

Originally Posted by korimako1

yes i saw it said somewhere he must have AVERAGED speeds in excess of 150 kmph. impossible. V8 supercars cant even do that around pukekohe. To average 150 speeds in excess if 230kmph would have to be achieved in a car governed to max 180. its a load of rubbish.

Average speed needed to be 117kph I think you'll find.