David Shearer quits

[Oscar]

No ,,,,don't go telling teacher ,,, let me make fun of the tards on the short bus ....

Stephen

By definition a tard is someone who fails to fit in with the community either by gross stupidity or rejected by one or more in said community
Just checked the oxford English , it said , one who owns seven ?? Go figure !

Are there any mirrors in Japan?

[oldrider]

I vote this thread, which has deteriorated beyond help - gets consigned to the Pointless Drivel section

Now .. Where's a Mod when you need one ..

Plus 1, the thread has followed Shearer off course into never never land/pointless drivel.

[Ocean1]

fair call , I wont even scurry of to check , but what ever I say ill be wrong , but "hey" lets have some fun. Still doesn’t change anything I said or the substances of you posts , even this one ..been reading health and beauty again I see.....

So you might be wrong, but that won’t change your opinion?

Sounds pretty much like what I’ve come to expect from you.

48 or 50, bike on tick , mortgage which is just ok to pay , upper blue collar or lower white collar working . from a good hard working Presbyterian family , work hard pay ya way and that’s life.
probably went to the bikoi but has problems with wingin poms. Inside struggles or feels helpless to do anything about the daily crap so try to justify it with own upbringing in order to make sense of life. Would secretly like to vote labour , but gets bent out of shape over the percieved threat of an

So, that’s the prick eh? The man who sold the world.

Sounds like a right arsehole.

Leme see , now…

48 or 50

Miles out.

bike on tick

I own all of them outright.

mortgage which is just ok to pay

Home is freehold.

upper blue collar or lower white collar working .

If you have to categorise “class” in such terms it automatically labels you as someone to whom such things matter. But to humour such as you as far as possible I can tell you that today I advised a board on some technical issues and I cleaned some floors. You can stick those under whatever collar colour class designation makes you feel least threatened.

from a good hard working Presbyterian family

Not really, no.

probably went to the bikoi but has problems with wingin poms. Inside struggles or feels helpless to do anything about the daily crap so try to justify it with own upbringing in order to make sense of life. Would secretly like to vote labour , but gets bent out of shape over the percieved threat of an undeserved section of society getting something that you have to work hard for ..... so votes national

No. Has problems with wingers of any flavour, especially those that like to blame every single negative aspect of their lives, real and imagined on an historic national fiscal governance event. Has no problem with daily crap because it pays for my toys. Has voted for both labour and national. Is disappointed in the burgeoning underachiever class consuming more than they earn. Gets annoyed when they bleat about how far behind the Jones’s they are and how unfair it all is.


So, not a good score for someone who claims to know me well enough to claim I’ve ruined NZ. Consistent, though insomuch as it meets your usual criteria for clear facts on which to base an opinion.

now on to the other part of the post ... Rego was rammed through by the current government and didn’t need to be increased ,ACC didnt need fixing ( a 1c tax increase back in the middle 90s would have seen Acc sweet as .... IF you were on the bikoi you would know this . Its just a symptom of the disease that is the new right. But then you know this right !

Not a question, then. Yet another item in which you know me better than myself, eh? As it happens I do know the drivers behind the rego change. I just wouldn’t be so single-mindedly simplistic as to attribute it to a mythical political enemy. And I certainly wouldn’t attribute it to some policy forced on us by the IMF.

New Zealand quality of life . where do I start , it was pretty good under the socialist and styed contant from about 1938 till 1980 odd , the effects of the korean war and all......but a quick check tells me its 15th 7.4 out of 10 BEHIND the united states and

I knew that's where you'd start. High spending socialist governments responsible for high income and subsequent high quality of life? No other possible explanation for the good life, Stephen? I wonder if peaks in our exports to blighty might have coincided with those socialist governments, do you think?

I’m interested where you got that from. WHO, was it? Or one of the other benighted left staggering international social analysts? Whatever, quality of life here is better than it was, which was better that it was... And as I’ve pointed out before, we do far less than our parents did for better return, immeasurably better than our grandparents.

And still, there’s them wot bitch that it’s all too hard.

please Google thing before you dribble, ( do you want me to post the links or do you want to give Google a try by your self)
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Stephen

Let’s just take it that either of us can find “proof” of whatever we want on the net, eh? And stop pretending that some obscure tangential white paper or budget speech demonstrates fuck all, because the only person that finds it relevant is you.

[Ocean1]

: That is so simplistic as to be laughable ...

Laugh away mate. Either you model your world around the concept that reward should be linked to the production of something others want, or you behave as if the world owes you something for nothing.

So yes, simple. And if you can stop laughing long enough you might let us know which way you want it?





Or not.

[Brian d marge]

So you might be wrong, but that won’t change your opinion?

Sounds pretty much like what I’ve come to expect from you.



So, that’s the prick eh? The man who sold the world.

Sounds like a right arsehole.

Leme see , now…



Miles out.



I own all of them outright.



Home is freehold.



If you have to categorise “class” in such terms it automatically labels you as someone to whom such things matter. But to humour such as you as far as possible I can tell you that today I advised a board on some technical issues and I cleaned some floors. You can stick those under whatever collar colour class designation makes you feel least threatened.



Not really, no.



No. Has problems with wingers of any flavour, especially those that like to blame every single negative aspect of their lives, real and imagined on an historic national fiscal governance event. Has no problem with daily crap because it pays for my toys. Has voted for both labour and national. Is disappointed in the burgeoning underachiever class consuming more than they earn. Gets annoyed when they bleat about how far behind the Jones’s they are and how unfair it all is.


So, not a good score for someone who claims to know me well enough to claim I’ve ruined NZ. Consistent, though insomuch as it meets your usual criteria for clear facts on which to base an opinion.



Not a question, then. Yet another item in which you know me better than myself, eh? As it happens I do know the drivers behind the rego change. I just wouldn’t be so single-mindedly simplistic as to attribute it to a mythical political enemy. And I certainly wouldn’t attribute it to some policy forced on us by the IMF.




I knew that's where you'd start. High spending socialist governments responsible for high income and subsequent high quality of life? No other possible explanation for the good life, Stephen? I wonder if peaks in our exports to blighty might have coincided with those socialist governments, do you think?

I’m interested where you got that from. WHO, was it? Or one of the other benighted left staggering international social analysts? Whatever, quality of life here is better than it was, which was better that it was... And as I’ve pointed out before, we do far less than our parents did for better return, immeasurably better than our grandparents.

And still, there’s them wot bitch that it’s all too hard.



Let’s just take it that either of us can find “proof” of whatever we want on the net, eh? And stop pretending that some obscure tangential white paper or budget speech demonstrates fuck all, because the only person that finds it relevant is you.

hey give ya credit for answering ,

I had a shot , and if Im miles out about your age then either you well preserved or fkin old for your age .

But it STILL doent change anything due to the tenor of your post on this thread, ( i got it almost right about being a flip flop voter !!haha)

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No. Has problems with wingers of any flavour, especially those that like to blame every single negative aspect of their lives, real and imagined on an historic national fiscal governance event. Has no problem with daily crap because it pays for my toys. Has voted for both labour and national. Is disappointed in the burgeoning underachiever class consuming more than they earn. Gets annoyed when they bleat about how far behind the Jones’s they are and how unfair it all is.

see the above, never thought that some of these "under achievers" may have shit thrust upon them , one of our own KB has had a terrible time due to a wooly bugger that had super powers ... and has told you so on at least one occasion .He also is very vocal against the current "mess" for want of a better word
but then these people dont feature in your cotton ball world

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I knew that's where you'd start. High spending socialist governments responsible for high income and subsequent high quality of life? No other possible explanation for the good life, Stephen? I wonder if peaks in our exports to blighty might have coincided with those socialist governments, do you think?

did I say that , werent there a few conservative government in that time frame? ( a quick google reveals ........................................

The right-leaning National Party and the left-leaning Labour Party have dominated New Zealand political as life since a Labour government came to power in 1935. During fourteen years in office (1935–1949), the Labour Party implemented a broad array of social and economic legislation, including comprehensive social security, a large scale public works programme, a forty-hour working week, a minimum basic wage, and compulsory unionism. The National Party won control of the government in 1949 and adopted many welfare measures instituted by the Labour Party. Except for two brief periods of Labour governments in 1957-1960 and 1972–1975, National held power until 1984.

and when did England stop taking out exports ??? coal and wool etc ???

1961 , ( oh gosh more facts from facts are us )

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/overseas...-policy/page-4 ( be careful its from the NZ government web site ,,,not to sure on its "truthfulness"

Britain had long been New Zealand’s main supplier of imports, but this was slowly declining – from 48% in the late 1930s, to 43% in 1960, and down to 30% in 1970. This was due partly to the recovery of other economies after the war, and their ability to compete on price and quality with British exporters. But it was also a by-product of Britain’s EEC membership. When Britain entered the EEC all bilateral agreements between New Zealand and Britain had to be terminated. Preferential treatment of British imports into New Zealand ended in 1977.
In 1980 imports from Britain had fallen to 14.5%. In 2007 they were less than 3%. In the late 1930s Britain took more than 80% of New Zealand exports. By 1960 it took 53%, which reduced to 36% in 1970, and 5% in 2007.

So the answer to you rhetorical? question is no.


ACC

Snip 3

Not a question, then. Yet another item in which you know me better than myself, eh? As it happens I do know the drivers behind the rego change. I just wouldn’t be so single-mindedly simplistic as to attribute it to a mythical political enemy. And I certainly wouldn’t attribute it to some policy forced on us by the IMF.

oh good p'haps you could enlighten me. So it wasn’t a move towards a insurance style scheme and it was definitely short of cash ...?

And which one of the current bunch would be the right choice to lead the country ?

I await with ( and I honestly do ) with baited breath for the answer. ( for both the ACC explanation and a "leader" )

Can you stop using white to color your internet links as I have trouble seeing them on my computer screen , I use blue as its a high contrast color , sorry but if you are providing links , I am having trouble seeing them.

Stephen

[mashman]

Hypocrisy?
I refuse to answer a question which has not relation to the thread, or even the current thread hijack and I'm a hypocrite?
I'm with Bandit on this one.

Yes.
At least you refuse this time, even if your reason makes a you a hypocrite.

[Robert Taylor]

Anyway, largely back on topic. Its a shame the Failure party are not electing Jacinda as leader. It would be their first female leader and we could marvel at that set of choppers she has.

[MisterD]

Are there any mirrors in Japan?

It would appear so...and razor blades.

[Banditbandit]

PD would be a very busy place if every thread that wandered from your preferred topic was consigned there... many a member would have pink eye too.

Off topic ??? I have no objection to wandering off topic .. and I can hijack threads with the best of them ..

But my God this thread is not only off topic is really is just pointless drivel ...

[Brian d marge]

Off topic ??? I have no objection to wandering off topic .. and I can hijack threads with the best of them ..

But my God this thread is not only off topic is really is just pointless drivel ...

Well it is about politics

Jacinda, ,,hmm good point(s)

Stephen

[mashman]

Off topic ??? I have no objection to wandering off topic .. and I can hijack threads with the best of them ..

But my God this thread is not only off topic is really is just pointless drivel ...

The moment it hit the board you could pretty much guarantee that the thread would be PD fit. Still, it whiles away a few moments until the revolution and it's always good to see what the competition has to say for themselves

[oldrider]

The Labour "leadership" debacle is dying from over exposure already, people are already switching off! (if it sounds too good to be true, it invariably is!)

Everyone else just needs to quietly sit this period out! ..

[Swoop]

The travelling road show of the "three stooges" is eminently entertaining!

The "must play nicely" with each other and not "slag off the party" rules are entertaining enough. The icing on the cake is the moronic stupidity of the 50/50 rule. Eliminating a person from selection who might be greatly superior for a position because that person is the "wrong" sex? Far out. The liarbour idiocracy appears to know no bounds!

[Banditbandit]

The Labour "leadership" debacle is dying from over exposure already, people are already switching off! (if it sounds too good to be true, it invariably is!)

Everyone else just needs to quietly sit this period out! ..

'cause only party memebrs get to vote ... so there's no real news now until the make the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

[mashman]

And tonight's Colmar Bunton results, in response to: how much of the canvassed population are giving a shit about who the next labour leader will be? 18% would.
102% wouldn't.