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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    Actually, Drew is spending alot of time in the garage lately..... I reckon the honeymoon is well and truely over.........
    Has alan dumped him?

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    Got the brakes sussed finally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    What a load of fookin' about.
    What idiot rookie would try and build their own racebike?

    Oh, wait..........
    Seemed like a good idea at the time aye.

    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    Actually, Drew is spending alot of time in the garage lately..... I reckon the honeymoon is well and truely over.........
    No no, Alan has been working in the garage too.

    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Has alan dumped him?
    He thought about swinging for you, but thinks he'd miss the excitement of going fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post

    He thought about swinging for you, but thinks he'd miss the excitement of going fast.
    Quite possibly burn of the year
    Built for speed, not for comfort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Got the brakes sussed finally.
    Nice. I see you've gone with the full pull through system........, how appropriate.
    Vote David Bain for MNZ president

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Nice. I see you've gone with the full pull through system........, how appropriate.
    Ian Staples wasn't impressed with the push action on the bias bar.

    Since I like a good pull, we've accommodated.

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    Today's job. Finish making the loom Sidecar shaped.

    All up the bloody thing owes more than twelve hours, for a poxy goddam 380grams!

    But it's tidy now and just needs wrapped. Before shot is actually half way through the job.
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    More updates.

    All the work I did on the loom, was put to the test on Thursday when we got to work to be ready for the test day at Manfield on Friday. FAIL!!!

    No fuel pump priming, or suggesting it even wanted to. Nor any power to the injectors. OH FUCK. I've cocked something up in the shortening of the loom. I did the job one wire at a time very carefully to avoid just such an occurrence god damn it.

    So after wasting the day trying to find the cause, I gave up and came home in a thoroughly foul mood. Alan took to the interweb and searched forums the world over. Luckily again, kit car owners like the 12 as a power plant, and it turns out that the little grey wire to the ignition switch which essentially just joins the main feed for everything else, is a signal wire for the ecu to measure a voltage drop. Try and hot wire a ZX12, and computer says NO. The section of wire it was spliced into was in the area to be removed. So thinking I was copying the last dude I just added it to the join where I wanted it. Alas, he had done it with a resistor I hadn't seen.

    Anyhoo, we've got that sorted now thanks to Alan's god like problem solving skills.

    Got the gear lever all set up on the right hand side today, and took it for a hoon around the block. Despite the brake lever needing adjustment, we seem to be ready for next weeks test day. We're gonna meet Ian Staples there and get our inspection done at the same time as having a bit of a play.

    Love the bars being low and close to the wheel. Soooo much more feel, and it's easier to steer the thing. Seems counter intuitive that the wide bars would be harder work, might have something to do with having my arms straight ahead of me, instead of out the side.

    Discussing with Al today, I'm tempted to arsehole the double master cylinder operated by the foot. Instead use the bar mounted master for the front, and the foot for chair and drive wheels. It makes sense, because the bias is always whatever I need rather than set for a whole session. Also means I can trail the rear brakes into tight right handers, without losing any steering feel.

    Food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Discussing with Al today, I'm tempted to arsehole the double master cylinder operated by the foot. Instead use the bar mounted master for the front, and the foot for chair and drive wheels. It makes sense, because the bias is always whatever I need rather than set for a whole session. Also means I can trail the rear brakes into tight right handers, without losing any steering feel.

    Food for thought.
    If it made that much sense I reckon the guys that have been building them for decades would be doing it that way

    In saying that the first sidecar I passengered was set up like that and with 320kg and a old lightly modded GSX1100 was good for 1.49 around Ruapuna, it just comes down to whatever works best for you
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    If it made that much sense I reckon the guys that have been building them for decades would be doing it that way

    In saying that the first sidecar I passengered was set up like that and with 320kg and a old lightly modded GSX1100 was good for 1.49 around Ruapuna, it just comes down to whatever works best for you
    Yeah. I might make a stopper for the front foot operated master. So at the track, I can bias it to the rear and hook the hand master up to the front caliper.

    That way I can test it. The 19mm Brembo radial master should have no trouble with the big Willwood up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Yeah. I might make a stopper for the front foot operated master. So at the track, I can bias it to the rear and hook the hand master up to the front caliper.

    That way I can test it. The 19mm Brembo radial master should have no trouble with the big Willwood up front.
    I know Goober used the foot pedal (working all three)most of the time but occasionally he'd used the front in combo with it and he was extremely good under brakes
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I know Goober used the foot pedal (working all three)most of the time but occasionally he'd used the front in combo with it and he was extremely good under brakes
    I thought about this too. Set the brakes up biased slightly rearward all the time, and regulate it with the hand operated front.

    But taking that to it's logical conclusion, lets save a kilo or two. If it works for us to use hand and foot together, I can take off a caliper from the front and a master in the middle. Might even save the amount I had to add to rebuild the front end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I know Goober used the foot pedal (working all three)most of the time but occasionally he'd used the front in combo with it and he was extremely good under brakes
    Yea Alex recon'd he used the hand brake too on the agip bike.. it never worked properly while I had it.

    Got pictures of your finished front end and loom etc, Drew? edit found em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Today's job. Finish making the loom Sidecar shaped.

    All up the bloody thing owes more than twelve hours, for a poxy goddam 380grams!

    But it's tidy now and just needs wrapped. Before shot is actually half way through the job.
    I see by the last photo there are some bits left over, that always happens when I work on a bike...
    "You never understood that it ain't no good, you shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you" - Bob Dylan

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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfy View Post
    I see by the last photo there are some bits left over, that always happens when I work on a bike...
    One of them was important too. Bloody resistor where a wire branched off.

    Took it to Manfield today. Was going pretty good in the first and only seesion we did. Tech inspection, and a complete brain fart got noticed on the drive wheel brake caliper. So back in the truck, and bring it home.

    Only thing it failed on though, so it's pretty good news really.

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