AMPS and Triumphs?

[Morcs]

Or you're assuming that posts on an internet forum using pseudonyms is representational?

I no longer have any affiliation so I can go back to honesty. With much relief.

[Tazz]

That is just legalized blackmail....... "if you dont do as we say, we will hurt your income"

How can they get away with shit like that.

They will have signed something in the past with a hole for something like this to get pushed through no doubt.

You think this is bad, look at Pandora (the American company that stole a design from an Italian one and made a fortune)

They had a min stock buy in of around 25-30k to get setup (bear in mind you're selling things that retail for $40-$400, so that is a big investment), had min stock orders (someone wanted an oddball product, you had to order 3 and eat the two you would never sell), and then after they had given it to every man and his dog they set up their own branded stores and told all their customers to get f'ed, they wouldn't supply any of them anymore, worldwide.

That really opened my eyes to how the business world works these days.

[Old Steve]

Yeah, Bayride in Tauranga is my kind of bike shop. Triumph, Yamaha, Ducati. Good stock of bikes, anything parked outside on the footpath is there for a trial ride. From my occaisional exerience, there's a good team downstairs in the workshop too. I reckon it'd well be worth a ride down from Auckland to look at bikes there, even if you didn't close a deal you'd have had a great 400 km ride through the Karangahake Gorge or down Hwy 27 and over the Kaimais.

A couple of years ago the agency that is now Red Baron Mt Maunganui let Honda go as Honda demanded they be exclusive dealers. Then the Kawasaki/Moto Guzzi/Hyosung dealership was bought out and changed to Polaris ATVs (wonder if they will introduce Victory and Indian?)

I've thought that it'd be a good mixed brand bike shop with everything that's missing in Tauranga/Mt M, Honda, Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Victory and Indian.

The Honda agent here in Mackay, Tropical Queensland, has Honda, Triumph and Victory. I wonder if Honda ever has the balls to put the hard word on them to be an exclusive dealership? I think Triumph, Victory and Indian would make a nice dealership - everything from the Street Triple, Speed Triple, Bonnevilles, to the new Indians and the Victorys (or is that Victories?). A little weighted towards heavy cruisers, but every miner buys a Harley or a clone when he gets his job so it'd be the perfect dealership for the area.

[jellywrestler]

I understand that by bullying other brands out of "their" dealerships, they get to remain exclusive and it works for their Image. But it really sucks for the potential buyer now. no way to see the bike you want side by side.

yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!

[ratusratus]

yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!

above me is the most sensible thing i have read on this forum

[GrayWolf]

Whether we like it or not, Corporatisation is going to become more and more evident...
Market leader or not, HD are based in an economy that is failing at a National level, even the Japanese 'big 4' have felt the squeeze.. ( Dont forget Yamaha have recently put forward some similar expectations of their dealerships.)
For any large business, whether we, as the end product consumer like it or not; to make those selling your product a one company outlet makes good financial and business sense.
It may be considered 'unfair', all those top corporate officials are interested in is MONEY, everyone thinks that HD are doing what they do for the 'love of those who buy the product'.... Reality is, if they could dispense with HOG, and the so called amazing dealership's and still make the same profits?
It's an outstanding marketing/profit making tool.. and for that, good on HD. They have in effect 'branded' the outlaw biker image to their bikes, just like HD owners say HD 'invented' the cruiser look.... no they didn't, HD simply have continued for around 60 yrs to produce bikes with the same basic styling.
Sadly maybe due to distance, low sales, (other factors) Some manufacturers products seem to not get the service/support that they do in the Northern Hemisphere.. I know from being a BMW owner in England, the dealership support/services and quality in the 80/90's was outstanding.

Maybe it's down more to the importers, those who hold the purse strings, as to what seems to be 'shoddy service/back up' mentioned by some here, rather than actual lack of support, from the manufacturer?
The demise of the English Car/Motorcycle manufacturing industry is an 'historical' warning, it now has no 'home brand' major producer.. The US car industry (GM specifically) has just recently lurched from major crisis to major crisis, had the Govt not stepped in? GM would likely be gone in it's entirety. Remember GM disposed of SAAB, HD 'disposed' of Buell. No GM? No Holden, Vauxhall, Opel, and all the US brands owned by that corporate.

The likelyhood is, China WILL be the major player within a couple of decades,,,,,,

[gammaguy]

Pre EQ CHCH was good on a Sat morn down Manchester St (the other end of the street was a different matter later in the evening....)

There was Honda, BMW, Triumph, Harley, Moto Guzzi and Suzuki all within a stones throw of each other. Oh and Pit Lane for tyres!

Farking Earthquakes :-(

WTF are you complaining about

it just means the cheap rides are up one end of the street and the expensive rides are gone elsewhere

tits or tyres,still cost money

[Grubber]

Still waiting for Triumph to cough up with the parts I paid for............................

Since AMPS have done with Triumph i have now started buying gear form Holeshot. Have to say, there is a vast difference in service levels compared to AMPS. I get everything i need either same day or the day after and pricing does seem better also.

Yeah, Bayride in Tauranga is my kind of bike shop. Triumph, Yamaha, Ducati. Good stock of bikes, anything parked outside on the footpath is there for a trial ride. From my occaisional exerience, there's a good team downstairs in the workshop too. I reckon it'd well be worth a ride down from Auckland to look at bikes there, even if you didn't close a deal you'd have had a great 400 km ride through the Karangahake Gorge or down Hwy 27 and over the Kaimais.

A couple of years ago the agency that is now Red Baron Mt Maunganui let Honda go as Honda demanded they be exclusive dealers. Then the Kawasaki/Moto Guzzi/Hyosung dealership was bought out and changed to Polaris ATVs (wonder if they will introduce Victory and Indian?)

I've thought that it'd be a good mixed brand bike shop with everything that's missing in Tauranga/Mt M, Honda, Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Victory and Indian.

The Honda agent here in Mackay, Tropical Queensland, has Honda, Triumph and Victory. I wonder if Honda ever has the balls to put the hard word on them to be an exclusive dealership? I think Triumph, Victory and Indian would make a nice dealership - everything from the Street Triple, Speed Triple, Bonnevilles, to the new Indians and the Victorys (or is that Victories?). A little weighted towards heavy cruisers, but every miner buys a Harley or a clone when he gets his job so it'd be the perfect dealership for the area.

Have to say, Bayride is pretty cool too. Good assortment of bikes to perve at and try out. Nice bunch of guys too.

yeah when i tried to buy a burger king meal at mcdonalds they simply wouldn
t sell me one, pissed me right off I tell ya!

Yup this makes a lot of sense. Why would you try promote another brand over your own.

[AllanB]

WTF are you complaining about

it just means the cheap rides are up one end of the street and the expensive rides are gone elsewhere

tits or tyres,still cost money

Problem is most of the 'tits' on the street are carrying spare tyres around their guts ...... I could be wrong - maybe they have 4 - 6 tits like dogs.

Mind you if they looked like this ......

[Road kill]

Buy British.

[russd7]

Problem is most of the 'tits' on the street are carrying spare tyres around their guts ...... I could be wrong - maybe they have 4 - 6 tits like dogs.

Mind you if they looked like this ......

problem with that is no decent cleavage

[boman]

Experience Motorcycles in Kingsland, have an agency for Triumph.

I had mine serviced there a few weeks ago. I was impressed with the service. Helpful and friendly.

[Swoop]

tits or tyres,still cost money

As the saying goes... "if it floats, fucks or flies, it is always better to rent than buy"!
Many a true word...

[cynna]

Buy British.

and wait 6 months for parts

[Zedder]

Yup this makes a lot of sense. Why would you try promote another brand over your own.[/QUOTE]




AMPS doesn't have its own brand as such and hasn't gone the same way with the Harley-Davidson brand unlike Colemans Suzuki for example. If it was "Ray Pratt Harley-Davidson" it would be a different matter.