Hidden speed camera live in Auckland

[east147]

For all the brains with no thought or rather no thought or rather opinion forming presumptuous sheep... No I did not get a ticket I had a radar detector and was well within the speed limit... that’s not the point and yes if you drive over the speed limit you deserve it to get caught by a marked Police car or Police man in appropriate gear... if you apply some thought and read my post my points are simple...

It’s the method used by the GOV / POLICE to capture you – YOU ARE DISHONEST... its dishonest and against everything a democratic and citizen state is all about.

If a Police officer stop you you get point and a fine - LAW ENFORCEMENT - AGREED?

If a mobile camera gets you its what? No points just a fine... its not a deterrent it’s all about a revenue streams... there is no Police officer telling you what why or when... 2 weeks after the incident you get a bit a paper saying... you were caught on this day at this time and you now owe the GOV this amount.

Think outside the box and not like a sheep ;-)

[Madness]

Speaking for myself here but when I get a speeding ticket, either from a popo or a camera, I usually slow down for a bit. If you can't identify a mufti or a camera car whilst on the move then you should have gone to SpecSavers anyway, they stand out like dogs balls.

[vifferman]

In Australia (some states at least - the ones I've been in), they warn you of speed cameras in operation, with signs beforehand. Same in Europe. The result? People (apart from the recidivist, inveterate speeders) slow down if they're going too fast. I certainly did - the fines are not insignificant.
I've had several speeding tickets here, given personally by a policeman. The result was I *knew* I'd done wrong, and afterwards, I rode more slowly for some time afterwards. I've also had one speed camera ticket in the car, my only one in nearly 40 years. Did it cause me to slow down? Like hell it did! I got the ticket more than 3 weeks after the event, and I had to really scratch my head and think very hard where I was at the time, and what the circumstances were. Never saw the van - I was concentrating on overtaking some slow traffic on a long straight at the time, and the fact I didn't see the van means it was out of sight in a gap in the shelter belts on the right hand side of the road.

My wife's only ever had two tickets - both speed cameras. She saw the first flash, as she was coming into Auckland on the motorway, travelling at the same speed as the column of traffic. Was it dangerous? Fuck no! All the traffic was travelling at just slightly over the speed limit, and the road surface was good, same with the visibility, and the oncoming traffic was on the other side of the wide centre median and barriers. A week later she got another one. She had no idea she'd got it (or that she'd been speeding), and blamed me at first, until I pointed out that at 7:15AM I was at home and she was on her way to work.
Apart from as a form of taxation, speed cameras are useless unless they are advertised. I doubt very very much that a covert speed camera aids road safety at all, unless the revenues are spent on safety (which is doubtful).

[Grashopper]

i feel if the police were really serious about slowing the public down..............surely ALL their cars........parked up or otherwise......would be marked wouldn't they?........i mean a more visable presence on the road would have to equate to people driving slower wouldn't it?
i know nothing slows me down more than the sight of one of those pesky cars..........not that i ever speed mind you

The idea behind the unmarked cars with speed cameras is that people don't know where to expect them, so theoretically they don't speed as much, as a camera could be around every corner. If you only have speed cameras in marked cars, or sticking out of the landscape in general, people only slow down in those places where they see cameras, like you, but speed up again directly afterwards. Not very safe, isn't it?

[scumdog]

The idea behind the unmarked cars with speed cameras is that people don't know where to expect them, so theoretically they don't speed as much, as a camera could be around every corner. If you only have speed cameras in marked cars, or sticking out of the landscape in general, people only slow down in those places where they see cameras, like you, but speed up again directly afterwards. Not very safe, isn't it?

Yep, I'm sure a Gods-eye-view of a marked cop-car driving along the road would show a 'bubble' of fairly good driving in the vicinity of the cop-car as it goes along.

Further out ahead and behind it would show the fairly 'average-to-poor' standard of driving that normally abounds when people think no cop is around.

[R650R]

Ya know sometimes they are just doing traffic surveys with these things too.
Now and then the cops have the camera flash every truck going down the bombays and I've known highway patrols to park up and ping trucks for hours with radar to survey speeds but not give tickets, one of the guys actually had a yak to him about it...
Don't go relying on radar detector either, everyone I know who has one seems to get more tickets...
Just wait till you get pinged by a mufti following with calibrated speedo, been there done that, thank god he pulled over my gsxr1100 before I got to the te hauke straights...

[Bikemad]

The idea behind the unmarked cars with speed cameras is that people don't know where to expect them, so theoretically they don't speed as much, as a camera could be around every corner. If you only have speed cameras in marked cars, or sticking out of the landscape in general, people only slow down in those places where they see cameras, like you, but speed up again directly afterwards. Not very safe, isn't it?

i disagree..........nowdays in my experience the police seem to work in pairs on the open road so you can be pretty sure if you have seen one car there will be another lurking nearby so only a fool would put the hammer down after passing a marked car............are people really that thick............don't answer that

[mossy1200]

We could all drive under the speed limit and then they wouldn't get any revenue and would go into cold storage.

[Grashopper]

i disagree..........nowdays in my experience the police seem to work in pairs on the open road so you can be pretty sure if you have seen one car there will be another lurking nearby so only a fool would put the hammer down after passing a marked car............are people really that thick............don't answer that

Lol, not exactly what I was trying to say. So how about this: If people only slow down around cops, but speed everywhere else, than that is a lot less safe than people going at the speed limit all the time cause a hidden speed camera could be anywhere. Not to mention all the panic braking as soon as they see a marked car, and people who don't know what a safe following distance is.

But what you said makes me wondering if people can get into trouble here for warning other people of speed cameras, like flashing the headlights. They can in other countries.

[mossy1200]

I do all sorts of hand wave signals.

This comment will cause someone to dredge a kiwibiker secrete wave thread.

[scumdog]

But what you said makes me wondering if people can get into trouble here for warning other people of speed cameras, like flashing the headlights. They can in other countries.

When driving my work car I frequently flash my headlights are other cars - they most certainly DO slow down and I don't think I will get into trouble for doing so...

[Bikemad]

Lol, not exactly what I was trying to say. So how about this: If people only slow down around cops, but speed everywhere else, than that is a lot less safe than people going at the speed limit all the time cause a hidden speed camera could be anywhere. Not to mention all the panic braking as soon as they see a marked car, and people who don't know what a safe following distance is.

But what you said makes me wondering if people can get into trouble here for warning other people of speed cameras, like flashing the headlights. They can in other countries.

yeah i got what you meant the first time but i feel more marked cars on the road would be more effective..........just my 2 cents worth

[rok-the-boat]

The original post makes a good point. This is about basic freedom - the loss of it. It goes beyond breaking the law, it is an attack on our freedom.

[scumdog]

The original post makes a good point. This is about basic freedom - the loss of it. It goes beyond breaking the law, it is an attack on our freedom.

What? - freedom to go as fast as you want to?

Well go ahead, nobody's stopping you...

[ktm84mxc]

A couple of years ago at Xmas had to drive down the motorway from Auck to Raglan late morning counted 4 speed camera vans between Bombay and Huntly .
Just revenue gathering, you seen the marked police hyundai vans with the cameras facing forward and back that's to do Reg and WOF check is current and matches the data , if not a infringement notice is sent to the known owner.