Police conducting on the spot vehicle inspections

[Berries]

I do this just because I don't want the hassle of dealing with them, last time I actually got stuck in a checkpoint I had rego, warrant and was 100% sober but the cop decided to give me a lecture on the fact he thought by the sound of my bike I had been speeding and he refused to believe that a DR650 is learner legal (technically the exhaust actually makes my one no longer legal under the LAMS scheme but he didn't seem to know that either) so after wasting over half an hour of my time (thus forcing me to ride outside the hours allowed by my learner license) he let me go without a fine.

He refused to believe that your DR650 was learner legal when in actual fact it wasn't? I'd have taken his number and made a complaint, the fucking cheek of it.

[scumdog]

I manage to dodge 90% of checkpoints by just keeping an eye out for the red/blue lights as I approach certain areas, normally they hide around a bend but at night you can usually see the lights reflecting off things closer to the corner and either chuck a u turn or go down a side street before they see you.

I do this just because I don't want the hassle of dealing with them, last time I actually got stuck in a checkpoint I had rego, warrant and was 100% sober but the cop decided to give me a lecture on the fact he thought by the sound of my bike I had been speeding and he refused to believe that a DR650 is learner legal (technically the exhaust actually makes my one no longer legal under the LAMS scheme but he didn't seem to know that either) so after wasting over half an hour of my time (thus forcing me to ride outside the hours allowed by my learner license) he let me go without a fine.

Are you the new Skidmark?????

[AllanB]

Skidmark is probably walking still ... after amassing too many roadside tickets.

[Mushu]

Um.........you broke the law but didn't get a ticket........and you're complaining?

He refused to believe that your DR650 was learner legal when in actual fact it wasn't? I'd have taken his number and made a complaint, the fucking cheek of it.

I have the standard exhaust and have no problem refitting it if I am asked to do so by a cop. What pissed me off was the young cop being unaware of what bikes are on the list and completely unprepared to check. Thus holding me on the side of the road unnecessarily causing me to have to ride illegally outside my allowed hours and also leaving my house unsecured for far longer than I would normally be prepared to.(didn't lock the door cos I was just running to the shop.) If they aren't actually writing you a fine they shouldn't be allowed to hold you longer than is necessary to perform the breath test and rego/warrant/license checks.

[R650R]

The cops are well aware of this tactic, and they often have a chase car parked up with its engine idling just for people like that. Then, they'll put you under far more scrutiny as they'll think you've got something to hide for being evasive.

I am well aware that they are well aware even though sometimes they are not well aware. One night a feral couple abandoned their car in my driveway due to the checkpoint literally one house down the road, had to go out and ask the plod if they were working with their eyes shut. Was quite impressed at the cold start, j turn and rapid acceleration of SV6.
Sometime ago they had a checkpoint here in rush hour traffic on the HB expressway on a Friday night, they even knew how bad it was as they had the full monty road work electronic delay sign trailers also. I thought it was just roadworks and joined the que with the lemmings, about 15mins later finally moving again and late for work so meant I had to speed in my 44 tonne b-train to get to produce markets on time and travel unnecessarily through a built up residential area to avoid the same delay again.
I'm all for road safety and legit motors but this same task of checking WOF status could be done by average joes on average wages parking meter style wandering around pak n save car park instead of tying up valuable police resources and blocking highways up.

[angle]

I have the standard exhaust and have no problem refitting it if I am asked to do so by a cop. What pissed me off was the young cop being unaware of what bikes are on the list and completely unprepared to check.

Personally, judging from what you said in the below quote, I don't believe that that's exactly what happened.

Thus holding me on the side of the road unnecessarily causing me to have to ride illegally outside my allowed hours and also leaving my house unsecured for far longer than I would normally be prepared to.(didn't lock the door cos I was just running to the shop.) If they aren't actually writing you a fine they shouldn't be allowed to hold you longer than is necessary to perform the breath test and rego/warrant/license checks.

I am not a fan of the Police by any means, the lack of professionalism and the amount of hypocrisy they show are the major factors, but blaming your own failings on the Police is a bit pitiful. It was your decision to ride that close to the legal curfew, it was your decision to leave the house unlocked.

[Mushu]

Personally, judging from what you said in the below quote, I don't believe that that's exactly what happened.


I am not a fan of the Police by any means, the lack of professionalism and the amount of hypocrisy they show are the major factors, but blaming your own failings on the Police is a bit pitiful. It was your decision to ride that close to the legal curfew, it was your decision to leave the house unlocked.

Why in fuck should I not be able to whip down to the local servo (less than 5 minutes away) to get smokes 15 minutes before curfew in the middle of the week. The other option being to go down at midnight when I actually ran out.

I was quite happy to leave the door open while I was gone for ten minutes, my dog would slow a thief down for most of that time anyway, but over 45 minutes to get to and from a gas station less than 2km away (factoring a few extra minutes to go the long way home to avoid repeating the process). Remember I hadn't done a thing wrong at all (except the exhaust which the cop never mentioned).

[Kickaha]

Why in fuck should I not be able to whip down to the local servo (less than 5 minutes away) to get smokes 15 minutes before curfew in the middle of the week. The other option being to go down at midnight when I actually ran out.

I was quite happy to leave the door open while I was gone for ten minutes, my dog would slow a thief down for most of that time anyway, but over 45 minutes to get to and from a gas station less than 2km away (factoring a few extra minutes to go the long way home to avoid repeating the process). Remember I hadn't done a thing wrong at all (except the exhaust which the cop never mentioned).

If you weren't such a lazy cunt you would have walked and avoided it all

[FJRider]

about 15mins later finally moving again and late for work so meant I had to speed in my 44 tonne b-train to get to produce markets on time and travel unnecessarily through a built up residential area to avoid the same delay again.

It never fails to amuse me ... how (supposedly) rational people complain when they are held up in their lives by people doing the job they are paid to do. When in the course of their own job ... probably hold up just as many people. I'm sure your 44 tonne B-train NEVER holds people up ....eh ... !!!

I'm all for road safety and legit motors but this same task of checking WOF status could be done by average joes on average wages parking meter style wandering around pak n save car park instead of tying up valuable police resources and blocking highways up.

There's been a few unhappy threads on that subject too ... and I can't believe you'd be happy with that either ... if you were on the receiving end of the ticket ..

[FJRider]

Why in fuck should I not be able to whip down to the local servo (less than 5 minutes away) to get smokes 15 minutes before curfew in the middle of the week. The other option being to go down at midnight when I actually ran out.

So .... smoking not only kills ... it makes you break the law too ...

... Remember I hadn't done a thing wrong at all (except the exhaust which the cop never mentioned).

So ... you're pleading innocence ... AND ... admitting guilt ...

[Mushu]

So .... smoking not only kills ... it makes you break the law too ...

Not really, the cop forced me to break the law, my motivation for going out in the first place is irrelevant

So ... you're pleading innocence ... AND ... admitting guilt ...

Not pleading innocence, just pointing out that the cop held me for no reason, if my exhaust had've been a concern of his he would have had a reason, as it was he didn't notice it so it's not a factor in this case.

[FJRider]

Not really, the cop forced me to break the law, my motivation for going out in the first place is irrelevant

So ... it's the COP's fault you broke the law .. (original)

Did you inform the cop of the fact you curfew was about to start ... ??

Not pleading innocence, just pointing out that the cop held me for no reason, if my exhaust had've been a concern of his he would have had a reason, as it was he didn't notice it so it's not a factor in this case.

Not innocent ... but just not your fault ... eh .. !!! And he did have a reason ... just you didn't like it ...

Life is tough for you .. eh .. !!

[R650R]

It never fails to amuse me ... how (supposedly) rational people complain when they are held up in their lives by people doing the job they are paid to do. When in the course of their own job ... probably hold up just as many people. I'm sure your 44 tonne B-train NEVER holds people up ....eh ... !!!



There's been a few unhappy threads on that subject too ... and I can't believe you'd be happy with that either ... if you were on the receiving end of the ticket ..

I have no beef with the cops doing there job, my complaint is about the inefficient techniques forced on them by govt and the lack of results vs resources expended. And all this while the govt via local councils allows pubs and bars to be built with large car parks, drive in bottle stores and very poor or no public transport options at peak alcohol consumption times.
BTW a 600hp truck holds up no one when its only running at 44 ton, pity that was only about ten percent of the time lol...

As for the last part, no wouldn't be happy but it would be a better use of resources to get same result

[FJRider]

I have no beef with the cops doing there job, my complaint is about the inefficient techniques forced on them by govt and the lack of results vs resources expended.

I reckon the real beef's will be when they DO start getting efficient ... the howls of protest that we'll hear then ...

[Mushu]

So ... it's the COP's fault you broke the law .. (original)

Did you inform the cop of the fact you curfew was about to start ... ??



Not innocent ... but just not your fault ... eh .. !!! And he did have a reason ... just you didn't like it ...

Life is tough for you .. eh .. !!

Yes it's the cops fault I broke the law, the whole time he had me pulled up we were arguing about whether my bike was on the LAMS list. The fact that he didn't know the exhaust excluded it anyway just further shows his ignorance.

As far as I can tell his only reason to have held me up that long was ignorance, he could have at any time asked one of the other cops that was there (it was a check point there were atleast half a dozen of them there at the time)

Who gives a shit anyway getting a bit off topic picking apart a simple story given as an example as to why I will do anything to avoid having to drive/ride through a checkpoint. Why do you care, the illegal modifications that were present on my bike have nothing to do with safety unless you think an exhaust would give a 650 single some kind of major power boost. I wouldn't have cared if he'd given me a ticket for any of the real or imagined offenses, especially if he'd done me for riding a non LAMS approved vehicle atleast I could keep the ticket because I would find it funny and I'm pretty sure I could get the fine thrown out just by sending a letter. Atleast then he would have had a reason to hold me up so much

If you don't mind listening to some young kid cop rabbit on bullshit just to hear the sound of his own voice then I hope he pulls you over next time.