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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Imagine that.
    Are you saying this is a hypothetical situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post
    What percentage of accidents occur at above the speed limit?
    it would be necessary to know "what speed limit" are you referring to.
    but, as a gross way, i can tell you: "not so much".

    remember that the major part of accidents happens within the city borders, so if you are thinking about your 100 kmh limit that part is very, very little.
    then consider that the major part of the major part happens at speed below 64 kmh.
    so if you're thinkin at the 70 kmh limit the answer is still "not so much".
    regarding the 50 kmh limit, there's the part between 50 and 64 kmh, so the answer becomes "some".
    at last, considering the 30 kmh limit, the answer could be "a considerable part".
    btw, it's been a study in the u.s. years ago that seems to suggest the conclusion that enforcing speed limit in the way it's often done has little effect on the severity and number of accident...
    it's not been particularly heralded for imaginable reasons...


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    That's not a rule, its half a stat and halfway to an internet meme with right funny picture...
    No surprise as its an easily quatinfiable and enforceable risk factor, so what are the other 20, crap worn out tyres???/Non WOF condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    so what are the other 20, crap worn out tyres???/Non WOF condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    That's not a rule, its half a stat and halfway to an internet meme with right funny picture...
    No surprise as its an easily quatinfiable and enforceable risk factor, so what are the other 20, crap worn out tyres???/Non WOF condition.
    Maybee no vehicle licence stemming the last ACC rape
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    Thats only the ones you catch, right? :satan:

    the weak-willed pansies who actually stop on command? How many run? How many get away?

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    According to curent Police, MoT and ACC stats:
    - 2/3 of motorcycle accidents occur on urban roads, and
    - 30% of crashes have "going to fast for the conditions" as a primary causal factor.

    Speed as in breaking the speed limits will be a subset of the "going to fast" for the conditions stats.

    The fast (oops meant vast... ) majority of tickets issued by Police to car drivers are also for speed...

    I could go on, but can't really be bothered. The op is a waste of information in the form it was given, no context therefore not relevant in any shape or form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    And a couple of years ago you told us that only 15% of the tickets you write were for speed. So now you are saying that motorcyclists generally obey all the accident causing rules but break the one where they are safest?
    Nah, I'm pretty sure he is saying that all the riders who used to go under the speed limit have been mulched cos riding that slow is unsafe. With such a drastic culling of the population now those 15% of safe guys have expanded to 80% of the still riding populace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    if speeding was safe there would be no need for speed limits now would there.
    The only thing that's not safe about speeding is when it also can be described as "going too fast for the conditions". No arbitrary speed limit will ever do anything about that.
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    Interesting. I would confidently say that less than 5% of the tickets I've received were for speeding...course, there's a reason for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Interesting. I would confidently say that less than 5% of the tickets I've received were for speeding...course, there's a reason for that.
    Actually, that's interesting, I wonder how others would go.

    I think it's 25% for me, I've had 4 tickets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    What nonsense if speeding was safe there would be no need for speed limits now would there.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

    But speeding is safe, I've never once had a crash due to exceeding the speed limit, yet I've crashed once at 10km/h below the speed limit (smidsy).

    If it was unsafe to drive at 80km/h, on a 70km/h restricted, dead straight road with no foot paths or driveways, then how is it safe to go 90km/h on a motorway 10km/h below the speed limit?

    How could you crash due to being over a speed limit? People could misjudge your speed, so you react by braking. Easy. If you lose control of the vehicle, then you went too fast for the conditions/vehicle/skill, not too fast for a random number designated to be safe for the lowest common denominator.

    Marijuana kills hundreds of people every year because it's illegal, therefore it must kill people or why would it be illegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydes55 View Post

    Marijuana kills hundreds of people every year because it's illegal, therefore it must kill people or why would it be illegal?
    KEH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    What nonsense if speeding was safe there would be no need for speed limits now would there.
    You know what?
    Yer full of shit!

    Rastus, come on now, tell us what the other 20% get dun fer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
    You know what?
    Yer full of shit!

    Rastus, come on now, tell us what the other 20% get dun fer.
    Mr Kiwi, yer right, butt yer wrong, if you know what I mean.
    The other 20% is made up of any other traffic offense you can think of. It's not a difficult concept, should you be allowed to ride a motorcycle?

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