Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

**willytheekid** · 3rd December 2014, 11:03

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Yes. Coz the limit is the limit. 51 is over the limit. But the policy is tickets at 55.

Ahhh...the TOLERANCE is 1k over mate, so "If anyone gets a ticket below the stated tolerance"...wouldn't they would be doing the legal speed limit?

...time for a coffee and a donut!!

(My shout!...just add it on to my future "travelled at legal speed limit" ticket

)

ps...I is just messing wiv ya Ras

(I know, I know..."shuddup wheelie")

**blue rider** · 3rd December 2014, 11:24

Originally Posted by scumdog

Time they brought in US-type rules.

Orange flashing lights on the roof of the school-bus - if they're flashing you don't pass. (OK, maybe in NZ slow down to the 20kph)

Formal Driver Training. You don't like it?

why?

would it not better to educate peeps and assure they know how to handle not only their beers but also their vehicles?

oh...you don't like educated peeps?

**James Deuce** · 3rd December 2014, 12:13

Originally Posted by cassina

Maybe the limit passing a school bus should be set at 30 like road works which would be more easy to remember. I actually did think it was 30. Often roadworks signs will also say be prepared to stop and the same rule could apply to passing school buses.

It's currently 20 km/hr when passing a school bus with passengers entering or exiting, on either side of the road. SO traffic in both directions has to slow to 20 km/hr. It's not hard. Just do it. You surely don't need signs to remind you that kids are unpredictable and worth something and you should avoid killing them at all costs?

Oh, sorry, my mistake, this is NZ where children are property and physical and emotional punching bags.

**scumdog** · 3rd December 2014, 13:24

Originally Posted by blue rider

Formal Driver Training. You don't like it?

why?

would it not better to educate peeps and assure they know how to handle not only their beers but also their vehicles?

oh...you don't like educated peeps?

I'd LOVE for people to be educated, I'd LOVE not having to dish out tickets...

So c'mon peeps, take some ownership of the issue and get soem proper driver training and education...

Oh wait, this IS the 21st century where the motto is "It's 'somebody elses' fault" so I guess 'somebody else' should MAKE them attend driver school.

**Big Dog** · 3rd December 2014, 14:49

Maybe make compulsory drivers ed for those who get 40 demerits in 24 months?

Kind of like the US have in some states that you can be summonsed to traffic school.

Then those who are right about thinking they are good drivers don't need to be bothered. Those who get tickets do get educated?

Lost your license? Attend compulsory training after your hiatus or you can't have it back.

I know a fair few good drivers or riders who never had formal training. Most could be better with some. Others there is a bit of a diminishing return.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**Big Dog** · 3rd December 2014, 14:56

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Well I heard from a tech tonight that one of his mates had been pulled up 3 times yesterday (twice by the same cop) and given tickets for exceeding the limit by 2, 2, 3 kph.

As I suggested, he's likely failing the attitude test, but it seems it's being enforced...

Fast learner.

Almost as fast as a mate in the 90s got pulled for 180ish. Got ticket told to take bike home cop would be by to collect his license in an hour. Same cop got him again half an hour later for a higher speed...

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**Big Dog** · 3rd December 2014, 15:00

Originally Posted by rastuscat

When speed cams came in the tolerance was the 85th percentile, or 10 kmh, whichever was highest. So on a road where the 85th percentile was 65, that's what the camera was set at. Waipuna Rd near the bridge was one with a trigger speed of 67.

Anyway, the lowest trigger speed was 11 over.

But I kept being told "my mate got a ticket for 51 in a 50". My response was always to tell them to have their mate produce the ticket to means Id have it cancelled.

Funny, nobody ever produced one.

Coz people love to exaggerate to make a point, regardless of how tosh it is.

Freuds theory of self esteem explains it, but it's been a fact of the job since time immemorial.

Just sayin. If anyone gets a ticket below the stated tolerance, write in. Or shut up, coz it doesn't exist.

Before I learned my lesson I had several 61 in a 50.
One while pacing a bike cop. The others just youthful exuberance.

These days I am late for everything. But no speeding tickets.

Like a fine whiskey I am mellowing with age.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**blue rider** · 3rd December 2014, 15:28

Originally Posted by scumdog

I'd LOVE for people to be educated, I'd LOVE not having to dish out tickets...

So c'mon peeps, take some ownership of the issue and get soem proper driver training and education...

Oh wait, this IS the 21st century where the motto is "It's 'somebody elses' fault" so I guess 'somebody else' should MAKE them attend driver school.

Yes, how about the Police, which is at the forefront enforcing our laws would advocate and lobbly our Lawmakers to make driving lessons compulsory so as
to prevent needless death on the Road.

Oh ....yeah....hot air...aye Scumdog, thats all you've got. lots n lots of hot air.

**scumdog** · 3rd December 2014, 16:27

Originally Posted by blue rider

Yes, how about the Police, which is at the forefront enforcing our laws would advocate and lobbly our Lawmakers to make driving lessons compulsory so as
to prevent needless death on the Road.

Oh ....yeah....hot air...aye Scumdog, thats all you've got. lots n lots of hot air.

So first you want 'somebody else' to do the lobbying (typical 21st century syndrome sufferer)

Then you bag me.

'Oh yuh shore know how to flattah a guy mistah...'

**Big Dog** · 3rd December 2014, 16:28

Originally Posted by scumdog

So first you want 'somebody else' to do the lobbying (typical 21st century syndrome sufferer)

Then you bag me.

'Oh yuh shore know how to flattah a guy mistah...'

He wants you to do the course for him too.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**haydes55** · 3rd December 2014, 17:15

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

Surely the words SCHOOL BUS emblazoned on it (when stopped) are a good indicator you need to 'slow down' to the correct speed???

And I believe there are 'school zone' roadsigns??

Oh shit, I just agreed with scummy and the cat.....

as you were!

PS: Scummy and the Cat..... do I detect a good 'Cop show title' in the offing?

I was following a white van one day. It pulled over a few hundred meters ahead, it had a rectangle yellow sign with a Maori word written on it. So I went past at 100km/h... Must have been a local marae courtesy bus or something. I saw a teenager getting out as I drove past......

I remembered the Maori word (forgot it now) later that night and googled it.... Turns out it's the Maori word for school........ I have nothing against people who want to keep Maori language alive.... But there is a time and place for it.... When 90% of the population can't read it, is it safe to use it to protect children.

On a different note. In the past 2 days I have driven past police at 80km/h in a temporary 50 zone, 90 in an 80 zone and 80 in a 70 zone..... Didn't even get a disco light flashing.

**nzspokes** · 3rd December 2014, 18:15

I saw a Police car today!

Wow.

I did think a clean wouldnt kill it though.

**R650R** · 3rd December 2014, 18:35

Originally Posted by haydes55

I was following a white van one day. It pulled over a few hundred meters ahead, it had a rectangle yellow sign with a Maori word written on it. So I went past at 100km/h... Must have been a local marae courtesy bus or something. I saw a teenager getting out as I drove past......

I remembered the Maori word (forgot it now) later that night and googled it.... Turns out it's the Maori word for school........ I have nothing against people who want to keep Maori language alive.... But there is a time and place for it.... When 90% of the population can't read it, is it safe to use it to protect children.

On a different note. In the past 2 days I have driven past police at 80km/h in a temporary 50 zone, 90 in an 80 zone and 80 in a 70 zone..... Didn't even get a disco light flashing.

This came up awhile ago in trucking forum too... given the time of day and location you could be expected to work it for yourself common sense wise. It wouldn't be a completely free get of jail card...

**unstuck** · 3rd December 2014, 18:51

Originally Posted by nzspokes

I saw a Police car today!

Wow.

I did think a clean wouldnt kill it though.

I passed one parked at the bottom of the jollies pass this morning doing 100kmh in the range rover towing a trailer with a couple of bikes on, he never even looked up.
Must have been having a munch on donuts(mmmm).
Ooops, but there wasn't much traffic around though, so it was safe..

**caspernz** · 3rd December 2014, 19:00

Originally Posted by haydes55

I was following a white van one day. It pulled over a few hundred meters ahead, it had a rectangle yellow sign with a Maori word written on it. So I went past at 100km/h... Must have been a local marae courtesy bus or something. I saw a teenager getting out as I drove past......

I remembered the Maori word (forgot it now) later that night and googled it.... Turns out it's the Maori word for school........ I have nothing against people who want to keep Maori language alive.... But there is a time and place for it.... When 90% of the population can't read it, is it safe to use it to protect children.

On a different note. In the past 2 days I have driven past police at 80km/h in a temporary 50 zone, 90 in an 80 zone and 80 in a 70 zone..... Didn't even get a disco light flashing.

Yes I find the whole crappy van with a yellow KURA sign on it mighty ambigious, and while I can work it out for myself, the road code I recall wasn't equipped with this version of school bus sign. Pity the tourists...

And before anyone cries out racist, I'm married to a Maori gal who finds it even more annoying than me