Your sovereign rights being flushed down the toilet by our politicians

[Ocean1]

ill just say that some of the happiest people on this planet are were hunter gatherers

Know them well did you?

I'll wager they were a great deal more sick, ill fed, lousy and short lived than anyone you claim is "enslaved" to some vague concept of an evel democracy you seem to think rules us all.

[bogan]

The evidence was presented by a university chemistry professor.

(I'm glad we've finally established just how full of shit you are though).

Like I said, might not be. Some are, like your example one but since it is still an expert interpretation, the vids are largely useless except to say, this is what some bloke thinks. I'm not ok with just taking somebody else word for it, no matter how qualified they are.

[bogan]

Between the end of this year and mid next year , Im off on my bicycle and will be passing though NZ

and as you think its awesome , I assume in the positive light , I hope your community spirit applies to travellers

As for put up or shut up ,,,,

this is my 5th country , I've traversed ..... some peered review evidence added below , probably a damn site more than you have ever done

nice try but they are waiting for u at fail.com

And will you be using roads on said bicycle? and the internet while you do so?

Like I said, you claim to want to go off grid, yet here you are, still very much plugged in.

In this case, it is put up and shut up, because if you are putting up (going off the grid) there will not be internet access.

[Katman]

I'm not ok with just taking somebody else word for it, no matter how qualified they are.

Nobody says you have to take their word.

But you have to at least hear their word before you can form an opinion on it.

[bogan]

Nobody says you have to take their word.

But you have to at least hear their word before you can form an opinion on it.

Why would you form an opinion on their word instead of just the evidence though?

[jonbuoy]

Between the end of this year and mid next year , Im off on my bicycle and will be passing though NZ

and as you think its awesome , I assume in the positive light , I hope your community spirit applies to travellers

As for put up or shut up ,,,,

this is my 5th country , I've traversed ..... some peered review evidence added below , probably a damn site more than you have ever done

nice try but they are waiting for u at fail.com

Attachment 309325Attachment 309326these were 2015 from Tokyo to Kyoto and back


Stephen

What has cycling got to do with it? After working in Africa and the Middle East I'll take western based "enslavement" any day of the week. How much time have you spent in Africa/Middle East?

[Katman]

Why would you form an opinion on their word instead of just the evidence though?

Their word is presenting the evidence, you dumb fuck.

[bogan]

Their word is presenting the evidence, you dumb fuck.

Exactly, they may well not be presenting it impartially either, so it is best you form your opinion on the evidence presented, and that alone.

[Brian d marge]

Know them well did you?

I'll wager they were a great deal more sick, ill fed, lousy and short lived than anyone you claim is "enslaved" to some vague concept of an evel democracy you seem to think rules us all.

wrong again as per usual

some of the best fed least stressed people I can think of

[Brian d marge]

And will you be using roads on said bicycle? and the internet while you do so?

Like I said, you claim to want to go off grid, yet here you are, still very much plugged in.

In this case, it is put up and shut up, because if you are putting up (going off the grid) there will not be internet access.

stop being stupid

but your right . . . .no internet

[Katman]

Exactly, they may well not be presenting it impartially either, so it is best you form your opinion on the evidence presented, and that alone.

You yourself claimed to have not heard of the nano-thermite evidence.

How the fuck are you ever going to hear it if you refuse to listen to it.

Fuck me, you make Ed sound intelligent.

[FJRider]

Nobody says you have to take their word.

But you have to at least hear their word before you can form an opinion on it.

Oi ... I have MY opinion .... Nobody's "Word" will change that ...

[FJRider]

you yourself claimed to have not heard of the nano-thermite evidence.

How the fuck are you ever going to hear it if you refuse to listen to it.

Fuck me, you make ed sound intelligent.

esp ...................................

[Brian d marge]

Probably the same thing that prevents most of 'em living self sufficiently in society: the lack of the required work ethic.

probably a better more hollistic work ethic

[yokel]

Why would you form an opinion on their word instead of just the evidence though?

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