Cash stolen off motorcycle buyer at gunpoint by phoney seller

[pritch]

C-cat. Faggot.

E cat?

[Akzle]

E cat?

ms S a.

No charlie. C cat.

[Akzle]

So, the average numpty can get one of them...

yeah. With a quick visit to your local blackpower sergeant at arms.

[Swoop]

yeah. With a quick visit to your local blackpower sergeant at arms.

Refer to post #30.

[Akzle]

Refer to post #30.

Refer to post #33

[Swoop]

Refer to post #33

Tui moment.

[pritch]

ms S a.

No charlie. C cat.

Nah. You aren't permitted to fire any firearm held on a C Cat licence. If you were to use one for self defence you would be charged. Well the last guy I read about was.
You are permitted to fire an MSSA held on an E Cat licence.

[Akzle]

Nah. You aren't permitted to fire any firearm held on a C Cat licence. If you were to use one for self defence you would be charged. Well the last guy I read about was.
You are permitted to fire an MSSA held on an E Cat licence.

hahahaha. 'permitted'.

[jasonu]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

[awayatc]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

[pritch]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

The system is as follows: (E&OE)

A category licence permits ownership of normal sporting shotguns and rifles.
B category permits ownership of pistols by members of approved pistol clubs
C category covers firearms held by a collector
D category = dealers
E category covers military style semi automatic rifles and shotguns.

An A cat licence requires relatively minimal security ie locked wooden cupboard etc. B & C require more secure storage made of steel (specified minimum thickness) and fastened to the building.

Dealers premises have to have comprehensive security arrangements probably alarmed etc etc.

So to answer your question, if a collector was holding some WW1 and WW2 pistols for example, and that would be fairly common, it would not be legal for him to fire them. His licence does not permit that and most such pistols would not be of a type approved for use in competition. A C licence does not permit the owner of a Vickers machine gun to fire that, and some years ago after a naval ship was decommisioned collectore bought Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns. They aren't permitted to fire those either.

[pritch]

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

So much more succinct than my reply. In my defence I can only say I'm retired and i've got all day.

[Akzle]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

no, you're not "allowed" to fire it on any license.


but if i'm holding an automatic weapon, there's a good chance i'm not listening to the "rules" as stipulated by anyone else...

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

hahahaha. legally

A C licence does not permit the owner of a Vickers machine gun to fire that, and some years ago after a naval ship was decommisioned collectore bought Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns. They aren't permitted to fire those either.

hahahaha. permitted.

[Akzle]

anyway. to address this shit, you cannot even OBTAIN (legally) a weapon capable of fully automatic fire on an E cat.

you can of course, obtain a military style semi-automatic (MSSA, as said)
and swap a few springs over, shave a sear and it might 'malfunction' to provide fully automatic fire... but that would make it illegal for you to have, because it's now "capable" and you don't have a C cat.

BUT, if you don't have a C cat, is there anything restricting you from it?

OR, if you're not a PERSON...

[huff3r]

Unless you are wanting to spray and pray, semi is all you need anyway.