My first poll for the NZ public

**bogan** · 27th May 2015, 22:48

Originally Posted by mashman

That's happening anyway.

Not been here that long. Have there been?

It is, but there are mechanisms in place to limit that effect.

I've not been able to find any examples of them, I think it very much possible that nz is far enough below the radar that a community could show the merits of being internally money free before they were squeezed out at all. At which point it would just serve to raise attention to the cause anyway.

**Brian d marge** · 27th May 2015, 23:08

Originally Posted by bogan

It is, but there are mechanisms in place to limit that effect.

I've not been able to find any examples of them, I think it very much possible that nz is far enough below the radar that a community could show the merits of being internally money free before they were squeezed out at all. At which point it would just serve to raise attention to the cause anyway.

There are possibly communities up north that are already almost cash free
You have to be well below the radar trust me
The man loves his currency

**mashman** · 27th May 2015, 23:14

Originally Posted by bogan

It is, but there are mechanisms in place to limit that effect.

I've not been able to find any examples of them, I think it very much possible that nz is far enough below the radar that a community could show the merits of being internally money free before they were squeezed out at all. At which point it would just serve to raise attention to the cause anyway.

An R.B.E. is a mechanism that will limit that effect also, because it will be relying on the same people.

nz, uk, russia, the gorbals, sealand etc... as you say, it will likely have been tried in some fashion at some point. Oldrider posted the Guernsey Experiment a while ago. Smart idea to get something done, but eventually brought back into the financial fold that was wanted by others. Damned shame.

Been a few, and could still be by the looks of things

**Akzle** · 28th May 2015, 08:10

Originally Posted by bogan

I've not been able to find any examples of them, I think it very much possible that nz is far enough below the radar that a community could show the merits of being internally money free before they were squeezed out at all. At which point it would just serve to raise attention to the cause anyway.

i wonder how hard you've looked, and where.

"intentional communities"
"the amish"

i knew of three between auckland and kaitaia in recent times. i believe theres still one in waitakere

not strictly money free, but defo aiming for "sustainable" in terms of farming, gardening, eco-builds (straw bale houses &c),

and yes, what killed at least one of them was largely pressures external - money.
within the community there was no need to "buy" stuff of others - everything was there for everyone.

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

There are possibly communities up north that are already almost cash free
You have to be well below the radar trust me
The man loves his currency

and south. thre's at least one hidey in the hills.

northaldn runs on boom and bust. just not with the rest of the economoney.

after growing season, we're cashed up. winter's pretty quiet for anyone who doesn't run indo'

anyway. i'm all about it. anyone who wants to come and be a hippy and live in a caravan and 'alp wiv me gardening, come on over!

**Gadget1** · 28th May 2015, 08:46

Originally Posted by mashman

Yes, and it's to a budget that dictates what they can do with policy etc... I get it.

No, I don't think you get anything. Even though people have posted good positive information you're still as lost as ever.

**Gadget1** · 28th May 2015, 08:58

Originally Posted by Katman

Perhaps you should ask Bogan for some of his tissues.

I'm doing nothing but laugh at you, so no.

What's even more hilarious is how some of you have families and are passing the loser mentality to them now too. They'll probably end up relying on handouts from the very system you hate. So, both losers and hypocrites.
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Meanwhile, positive things are happening around the world, as has been posted, and you lot will still be bitter, but older, hypocritcal losers with a dynasty of the same.

Anyway, I'm off to spend some more money.

**Gadget1** · 28th May 2015, 09:01

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

I dont give a flying . . .

Come back when you have something thats of interest

As a rule 6 post wonders fly in .
. red rep everyone then are never seen again . ,

My green rep count is far higher than the pathetic reds from you and your loser mates. I notice your coherence is slipping again, you really need to work on it.

If you can that is.

**mashman** · 28th May 2015, 09:14

Originally Posted by Gadget1

No, I don't think you get anything. Even though people have posted good positive information you're still as lost as ever.

Stop thinking that you know what I know and or are thinking, it's not only rude but makes you look completely ignorant. 'you got to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative.' - The Andrews Sisters, ignoring the negative does not count as eliminating it, coz you have to address it in order to eliminate it. Lost indeed.

**mashman** · 28th May 2015, 09:17

Originally Posted by Gadget1

So, both losers and hypocrites..

Wah wah wah people are talking about things I can't understand and I don't know how to deal with it other than moan at them that they're being negative bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Go on, keep posting please.

**mashman** · 28th May 2015, 09:29

FIFO ruining towns, families: inquiry... what? you mean a lack of money is destroying communities

OMG, quick, someone must be notified because the rest of the world could end up living under such stupid circumstances

**oldrider** · 28th May 2015, 09:42

Originally Posted by mashman

FIFO ruining towns, families: inquiry... what? you mean a lack of money is destroying communities

OMG, quick, someone must be notified because the rest of the world could end up living under such stupid circumstances

Most of the relatives and acquaintances that we are aware of involved in FIFO arrangements have ended in disaster for their relationships!

They say "absence makes the heart grow stronger" - but one should always consider - "who's heart"? -

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**Zedder** · 28th May 2015, 09:48

Originally Posted by mashman

Stop thinking that you know what I know and or are thinking, it's not only rude but makes you look completely ignorant. 'you got to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative.' - The Andrews Sisters, ignoring the negative does not count as eliminating it, coz you have to address it in order to eliminate it. Lost indeed.

Lol, after 4-5 years of your ranting and raving on both your pet threads I'd say we all have a good idea what you're knowing and thinking.

**mashman** · 28th May 2015, 10:00

Originally Posted by Zedder

Lol, after 4-5 years of your ranting and raving on both your pet threads I'd say we all have a good idea what you're knowing and thinking.

Given that most of the time you guys state that you don't understand, I find that highly unlikely. Then again, you guys just know better eh

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**mashman** · 28th May 2015, 10:02

Originally Posted by oldrider

Most of the relatives and acquaintances that we are aware of involved in FIFO arrangements have ended in disaster for their relationships!

They say "absence makes the heart grow stronger" - but one should always consider - "who's heart"? -

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My brother in law has been working like that for must be kicking on 20 years. They recently hit a speed bump, but look to be sorting it out so I know it can work... having said that, he states that most of their "problems" were money related.

heh... the missus couldn't live without me, so I'm safe

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