The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[Brian d marge]

I asked a question about the "proof" that the idiot posted.
I have no interest in your stupid ravings.

No you didnt. . .

Unless i missed it

But I always lookfor your posts in order to see the state of the nation



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[Brian d marge]

You posted it, read the fucking thing.

Between the two figures for Christians in North America, there is a huge difference.
I would say the numbers aren't very accurate.

Ahhh these the rest of the sentence
And you complain about me

Damn

So . . See if you can find any substantiated figures

You cant . . . .why

Now put the sherry down and read this carefully

Why. . . . Certainly the 6 mill is questionable

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[Brian d marge]

Stephen not one of my questions above was answered by you. Not a single one.
I asked the source of your material. The web site it was from.
Are you trying to say it was from the Red cross website now I say it was not.
I would say it was from a "Holocaust never happened website"
Hence your reticence to say where it was from.

Have a look at the american jewish committee
No go back and have a look at what I have said
And when i get near a computer i will help you in your quest




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[Brian d marge]

Fuck, I reckon.

It's almost like you could make up any old number.

6 million is a good numbe its been used since 1900

Why change it

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[husaberg]

Have a look at the american jewish committee
No go back and have a look at what I have said
And when i get near a computer i will help you in your quest
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I did twice you just had a dig at where I gathered the information from (while hypocritically forgetting where your information was garnered from)

You then evaded the questions I asked of you some more. Kind of like you just did again.
There is a defined pattern emerging here Stephen.
The denial camp is big on questions slim on answers. Huge on rumour, skinny on evidence.

[Brian d marge]

I did twice you just had a dig at where I gathered the information from (while hypocritically forgetting where your information was garnered from)

You then evaded the questions I asked of you some more. Kind of like you just did again.
There is a defined pattern emerging here Stephen.
The denial camp is big on questions slim on answers. Huge on rumour, skinny on evidence.

What part of

I gave u the answer do you not understand

Wait I got it

Wait until I get home and Ill make all yiu dreams come true



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[mashman]

Well I have seen the records (well what's left of them) 2/3 of fuck all died from typhus at Auschwitz. Millions arrived by train most of those trainloads of people never made the official camp records. why is this............ f-all left the camp alive.
Some people only see what they want too, what is convenient.
Katman only believes in conspiracies. He needs them. Hense his "well maybe 10 of thousands" may have died statement.
The burden of proof lies with those trying to disprove history, the denial camp his huge on rhetoric slim on any actual evidence as can been seen here by a total lack of any evidence at all.
History is not proven by Katman's gut feeling.

Like I said, history is a shit teacher... because those who regurgitate it do so they way they saw it or have researched it, and given that the true numbers are sketchy, and, as you state, an unknown number "vanished", how can anyone claim that they have THE undeniable single version that proves anything other than millions of people died? Therefore it's all open to individual interpretation as to what happened to what quantity of people and why, not just because of the evidence available, but because it feels right. Meh.

[Oscar]

Ahhh these the rest of the sentence
And you complain about me

Damn

So . . See if you can find any substantiated figures

You cant . . . .why

Now put the sherry down and read this carefully

Why. . . . Certainly the 6 mill is questionable

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There are plenty of substantiated figures.
Stop asking stupid questions and admit that the figures that you psoted wer shit.

[Brian d marge]

There are plenty of substantiated figures.
Stop asking stupid questions and admit that the figures that you psoted wer shit.

No they were exactly in context if you read what I said

Btw I assume psoted means posted and there are 2 e in where


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[husaberg]

Like I said, history is a shit teacher... because those who regurgitate it do so they way they saw it or have researched it, and given that the true numbers are sketchy, and, as you state, an unknown number "vanished", how can anyone claim that they have THE undeniable single version that proves anything other than millions of people died? Therefore it's all open to individual interpretation as to what happened to what quantity of people and why, not just because of the evidence available, but because it feels right. Meh.

Oh contraire It is not exactly unknown how many vanished what I was saying is we know they arrived on trains we have the schedules The deniers have never accounted for where these people went at all.

[mashman]

Oh contraire It is not exactly unknown how many vanished what I was saying is we know they arrived on trains we have the schedules The deniers have never accounted for where these people went at all.

My school attendance states that I was at school a lot more than I actually was.

heh.. read your deniers line again and think about it . Then consider how big the planet is and the need to hide one's name/faith for fear of being persecuted.

[husaberg]

My school attendance states that I was at school a lot more than I actually was.

heh.. read your deniers line again and think about it . Then consider how big the planet is and the need to hide one's name/faith for fear of being persecuted.

Too easy Mashy.
Yet again read what you posted. The survivors are easy to find the German staff at the camps were the ones who went into hiding and changed their identities.
Think about it.
I am pretty sure if you didn't turn up at home after school whether truant of not someone would have gone looking for you.
But if you were gassed and burned to ash and then the ashen remains were scattered about, it would be pretty hard to say how you died. But rest assured you would be still dead.

[bogan]

Btw I assume psoted means posted and there are 2 e in where

Mate, if he can put up with your gibbering, bastardised version of the english language, the least you can do is allow him some spelling mistakes.

Now, you figured out why we should care who is a zionist or not, given that they're not all bad people?

[Brian d marge]

It seems that some , Especially ones who fly low , Have the intellect of a baboon

So for the sake of the remedial readers , below please find my complete set of posts which, from what I can see say
the same thing, over and over again
And finally here
A one stop shop , for this whole debate .....

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=8204bdbb05d85354cb7f4b56a3ae2b9c

NOW How can I put this politely , IF ya cant gather my position on this whole debate .... just be happy with anything that on the TV at 7pm ,
and good luck .

Stephen

Sorry for length of post ...no other way I could see



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No one is deriding a whole group
I have and others have been very careful to point this out

Unfortuantly the actions of a few are tainting the name of the many good bastads

But the narative that this small group want to impose is NOT what actually happened or is Happening

Such is life

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I know the views of those in question

Stephen

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Sorry thought you were up to speed on jewish history and the khazars
Sorry
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And the fact that people leaving germany were paid to resettle in the promised land
Only took a small hit on savings actually

Too many . . . Hang on a minite . . .for my likin
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Just dismiss it then

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Which is what we are talking about

There were groups that supported hitler

Why was that , . . . . .dot dot dot

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Ok what would you like

When i come back from the dump . . Im all yours

Promise

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The opposite also can apply

Ya beat me on the stupidity

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Right back from the dump , what would you like to know
Stephen

His first , well the finance minister he inherited Hjammmer Shmitt or what ever his name was .. , He was switched on ( but was replace by ( why ????) , Uncle Herman , who was under orders to get ready for war and was given 4 years ( the original 25 point plan was kinda lost along the way )
It then became a command economy, the banks were still privatised , ( this answers , dumbarses question) , but now the banks were capped under the command economy and asset stripped after the war .

Snip; Strange how the same name keep popping up ...Im sure Morgan aint a Greek name .....

During the first half of 1922, the Mark stabilized at about 320 Marks per Dollar. This was accompanied by international reparations conferences, including one in June 1922 organized by U.S. investment banker J. P. Morgan, Jr.[10] When these meetings produced no workable solution, the inflation changed to hyperinflation and the Mark fell to 800 Marks per Dollar by December 1922. The cost-of-living index was 41 in June 1922 and 685 in December, a 15-fold increase.

( gini is at 42 for America and was 44 when Rome collapsed .....hey ho ...)

Stephen

Oz cars is right in that that Daily express, and other newspaper set up a narative to influence an agenda.

The conspiricy theory or scuttlebut is; Hitler was a illegitimate Rothschild and was funded by the European ( swiss ) banks in order to help facilitate the creation of israel

Why wasnt the ball bearing factory in Cologne left untouched , and what about Switzerland ???

The banks funded Hitler , UNTIL , He removed himself from the gold standard and created and wanted German independence ( total , independence incl money and raw materials )

The banks??? or the 1% , ( Follow the money the same names will appear ) said OXI .

either by design or by reaction who knows ....

Either way the narrative was built and still is being built, Germany and silly moustaches are bad , and Jewish people are the victims ........

may be the case .....

but there are too many " hang on a minutes "

A simple question ( I don't care either way Just for the record , ) ....where did the figure 6 million come from? and my uncle died last month here in Japan. He was cremated using the latest equipment ,,,, that took 20 min .... one body .....

you do the maths ....something aint right

Anyway Uncle Oz cars is right in the fact that; one must be careful of the narrative ....

At the moment its Greece ....... Why would the banks hang out to dry a country such as Greece ...as someone else said: that would be like America , hanging out Rhode Island out to dry

Makes no sense unless there is a bigger picture ......

IMHO.

Stephen

Fixed it for you

Go back and read what ACTUALLY has been said

Stephen

Start with zion follow that and see what happens

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Good on ya

I will look at those points
And as others know I WILL get back to u
But just on those photos Ive heard one suggestion that some of them were german dead

Still thanks for spending the time . .

Now I dont really care which way this goes my main concern is getting or at the very least asking the questions


But without spending the time . . Because right now im in a sushi bar

You quite rightly noticed
That the references you gave are jewish

And yes they the nazi did keep records but off top head there was a discrepancy with either the record or the use

But I ll look into it and reply in due course

Finally with a coffin an a walking skeleton . .he had cancer . .20 min

The war lasted 6 year that will give u a number of people

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Yes those are stock photos and the are some questions behind them
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Ive just been reading the post YOU posted in gene pool i think the thread was titled and was quoted earlier

What side you on willis

I dont care either way but i should quote your post as a good place to start to support my stance

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Ehhhhhhhh
Zionism and what we are talking about
We might be at crossed communications here

Can you elaborate

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Ill see if i can cut and paste on this phone

Just as an aside
If there are 1440 min in a day and the war 6 years
My uncle took 20 min incl coffin

With modern tech

I roughly 157 000 were creamated

Numbers just aint stacking up


Anyway ill try and quote your post

Hang on

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Please please at least be familiar with the topic before replying

Wtf do you think zionism is

Fr gawd sake just google it

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You are right

Even if one person died thats enough
But when the number is being used to push an agenda

Now its a different kettle of fish

There were 500 000 brits and 600 000 germans killed at the battle of the somme

Nah something aint right

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So far Ive spent all of three min

I will go throught the list you gave , Slowly as you will see why ...

I started at the top and worked down

old Hotteee was a character , work as an SS officer , up thee with the elite ..then goes on to a spying career in the us of an A .... after being party to 6million deaths .......

Snip;Höttl was first stationed in Vienna with the SD foreign bureau and then moved to Berlin where he was promoted to the rank of SS-Sturmbannführer (major). In 1944 Höttl became the Ausland-SD's acting head of Intelligence and Counter Espionage in Central and South East Europe. In March he was assigned to Budapest, where he served as second in command to Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler's SS representative in Hungary. In addition, Höttl served as political advisor to Hitler's ambassador there, Edmund Veesenmayer, who reported to Berlin, for example, on the large-scale deportations in 1944 of Jews from Hungary. During his stay in Budapest he was in contact with the Americans in Bern, Switzerland.

"Eichmann said at that time six million people have been killed, four million in concentration camps and similar set-ups, and two million by shooting, Einsatzkommandos. And he told me at that time, it was fantastic really, 'I had thought a lot of people had been killed, but six million!' And he said 'Just imagine, that was still too few for Himmler. Himmler said to me, 'There must be more than that.' And he set up his own statistics unit (today we would say 'computer people') who were to check up on this.'"

- Wilhelm Höttl (quoting Eichmann quoting Himmler)

Im not saying nowt .......but if you are in the SS up in front of a judge who may string you up ......do you think you might stick to the truth , especially if the judge is ..looking for an specific answer??? Just saying thats all ???

then we look at the 6 million figure

here is how many times the 6 mil has been mentioned in regards to the poor wee dears .....

1900 - Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900
"There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism."

1902 - Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, Vol. 25, 1902, page 482
"While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded ..."

1902- Samuel W. Goldstein, New York Times, November 27, 1902
"PLEA FOR ZIONISM ... In answer I would say: Does Dr. Silverman represent the 6,000,000 Jews in Russia, 300,000 in Roumania and the 1,000,000 in Galicia?"

1937 - The Jewish Criterion, September 3, 1937
"the position of the six million Jews of Central and Eastern Europe with whose existence the J.D.C." was "so vitally concerned."


1939 - The Jewish Criterion, April 7th, 1939, page 33
" ... six million Jewish people who are in dire need today."

1939 - The Jewish Criterion, April 14th, 1939, page 4
"Recent events in Central Europe have brought to 6,000,000 the total number of Jews in Central and Eastern European countries affected by anti-Semitic activities"

1940 - The Southern Israelite, May 3rd, 1940
"Almost six million Jews find themselves on the brink of starvation and extermination. Their only hope is the help which the Jews of America can extend to them. The success of the United Jewish Appeal will determine their fate.


1944 - Nahum Goldmann, Jewish Western Bulletin, December 8th, 1944
" ... apart from Jewish losses in combat service, 5,500,000 Jews have been killed in Germany and German-occupied tesritories [recte: territories] since the outbreak of the awr [recte: war]. These figures exceed the number anticipated even by the most pessimistic. ... Yes, the Germans murdered close to six million Jews ... "

1945 - Jewish Western Bulletin, September 7th, 1945, page 47
"Throughout the world there is a growing indignation over the barbarism and the unspeakable cruelty of the mass murders of six million Jews by the Nazis,"

1945 - New York Times, September 17th, 1945
"Six million Jews have died as martyrs and their blood cries up from the ground."

Or what about this little doozie .....the red cross figures from the camps which kinda is in the SAME ball park as my rough as guts estimate Attachment 313598

Shall I stop now .....?????? or shall I continue to the births and deaths .......

or should I quote one of the numbers from me wee list
1943 - July 21, 1943, Ben Hecht's show 'We Shall Not Die' staged at the Hollywood Bowl, California
"The Germans murdered 2,000,000 Jewish civilians without trouble; the Germans are murdering the surviving 4,000,000 Jewish civilians of Europe without trouble."


Gosh those numbers look familiar ..........


Stephen

May very well be true
But I think there are 2 many un answered questions
Or questions for that matter
And even the simple numbers dont stack up

All ive done is raise a few questions what u do with them is your matter

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I also think that is the case

Based on my experience a single body of similar sze and wieght took 20 min
Quick calc i got 160 000

Three min on google i found a red cross document showing a figure of 275 000

Then when shown the document . . Oh yes but . .

I will dig deeper because if any money is invovled the same names should appesr
Hahaha

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At whst point did i say that it did not occur
A tragedy occured caused by both sides but I THINK is being milked by a small group
Kinda like 9 11 to many" hang on a miniutes "
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My simple argument raised a question the later seemed to be supported
At this point one might be going hmmmmm why is that

Heres another hmmmm according to thr jewish press 90 percent of jews in poland were killed
A simple before and after head count should tell us something

Red cross should have those figures

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Havent made any claims
I just raised the point that you could be wrong
Simple
And it wasnt difficult to do
which then raised the issue of you may not know what your talking about
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No it was 11 mil 9 mil were jewish of which 2/3 were killed . . 2/3 of 9 is um 6
Of which according to u 3 mill went at one camp

Someones telling porkies

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And

Oh noes using a well and trusted jewish almanac
We find the population went down by 2/5th of fk all . . But hang werent 90 % wiped out 6 mill at least

More hang on . Something need chips to go with this fishy

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Hang on they checked with the jewish community to see if they made a mistake
And sure enough they had because the sums anit matching

Fish sauce

But i will look into it

Too many un clear what the fks for my liking

It always seems to be Jewish historians offfering evidence
Or germans with ropes around there necks

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Oh god
Sorry god but
Theres me thinking this might be a link of some importance
But no jewish media promoting jewish fact
Disclaimer for the stupid. . . I dont mean all just rotton ones and the brain washed
So i read husaburghs article ,
And at rhe bottom we find

© The Nizkor Project, 1991-2012

This site is intended for educational purposes to teach about the Holocaust and to combat hatred. Any statements or excerpts found on this site are for educational purposes only

Just have a look around that web site and and who they endorse

Snip

The Nizkor Project (Hebrew: נִזְכּוֹר‎ we will remember) is an Internet-based project run by B'nai Brith Canada which is dedicated to countering Holocaust denial.[1]

And we know who b nai brith is dont we


Did you even read that before you posted

Probably not
Im really trying to resist derogatory words here but trust ne that was schoolboy research . .

Any chance of an untainted non jewish bit of evidence such as the red cross

Ill supply the chocolate

Fkin ell

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Did
Red cross its written on the top of the page

See my reply about your source . . .

And finally the numbers aint important

But and here where and why i get animated

The holocaust tm happened but so have others

The brits invented the game in south africa . . Not reported

Now if

The holocaust is being used to further an agenda
Not cool bad juju

And even worse if its was created to further an agenda . .that really bad juju

This is why doubt is important

Otherwise ya start believing that 2 planes knocked down 3 buildings

The were weapons of mass destruction

And the removal of black jelly babies was a zionist plot

Stephen
Ps
When I have finished reading I will post a link that will most probably shoot meself in the foot
Is the best one stop shop ive found

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Ahhh these the rest of the sentence
And you complain about me

Damn
So . . See if you can find any substantiated figures

You cant . . . .why

Now put the sherry down and read this carefully

Why. . . . Certainly the 6 mill is questionable

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No they were exactly in context if you read what I said

Btw I assume psoted means posted and there are 2 e in where


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Wheeeeee ........go back to top

[Brian d marge]

Mate, if he can put up with your gibbering, bastardised version of the english language, the least you can do is allow him some spelling mistakes.

Now, you figured out why we should care who is a zionist or not, given that they're not all bad people?

True , but is it one rule for all , or just when you fellas have trouble ?

Stephen