Stupid World

**Ocean1** · 19th January 2016, 19:24

Originally Posted by mashman

Not even one of NZ's leading statisticians, when "cornered", had the temerity to claim that the gathering and crunching of data was fact. Have you ever watched statistical calculations as they run? I have. Do you know that as the calculations run they discard anything that breaks the calculation (outliers). So no, you have best guess.

@outrageous guesses. Where's the fat kid when you need someone to cry hyperbole.

So you still got fuck all, eh?

**mashman** · 19th January 2016, 19:26

Originally Posted by bogan

If you read the link Ocean put up, you'll find no outliers were discarded, in fact the very thing being examined is the 1%, by definition, a statistical outlier

The funny thing is, even your rebuttals are just outrageous guesses

So what you're really saying is that you have no idea how these calculations actually run either. The calculations discard the outliers else the program breaks and you don't get a result i.e. no pretty graph and no answers.

Nah, that's just your ignorance and cognitive bias showing...

**Ocean1** · 19th January 2016, 19:29

Originally Posted by Katman

They always were.

And obviously even you could be that productive if you really really wanted to...

Nevermind, at least you've got self pity.

**mashman** · 19th January 2016, 19:30

Originally Posted by Ocean1

So you still got fuck all, eh?

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I thought you might have known these things given your live by the report die by the report stance. T'would seem not. Well I have knowledge... you have blind, and ignorant, faith. Chur bro.

**Ocean1** · 19th January 2016, 19:31

Originally Posted by mashman

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I thought you might have known these things given your live by the report die by the report stance. T'would seem not. Well I have knowledge... you have blind, and ignorant, faith. Chur bro.

Thought so.

**mashman** · 19th January 2016, 19:40

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Thought so.

You, thinking? I highly doubt it.

**Katman** · 19th January 2016, 19:52

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And obviously even you could be that productive if you really really wanted to...

I've got far too many scruples.

**Brian d marge** · 19th January 2016, 19:53

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You're not actually interested in the facts, then.

Just "no, you're wrong, the facts don't matter and I'll work out why later."

Edit: Actually, don't bother, go argue with these dudes: http://www.rug.nl/search/?searchtext...0-+2010+excel+

no
i found your answer very interesting
but all the other evidence ive read indicates otherwise

and ive read a lot

so i would like to give you the benefit of doubt

its as simple as that

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**Brian d marge** · 19th January 2016, 19:56

Originally Posted by mashman

Not even one of NZ's leading statisticians, when "cornered", had the temerity to claim that the gathering and crunching of data was fact. Have you ever watched statistical calculations as they run? I have. Do you know that as the calculations run they discard anything that breaks the calculation (outliers). So no, you have best guess.

@outrageous guesses. Where's the fat kid when you need someone to cry hyperbole.

dont call him fat

thats my job

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**Ocean1** · 19th January 2016, 20:01

Originally Posted by Katman

I've got far too many scruples.

You've also got the tax they pay, which amounts to most of it.

Y'know, just 'cause you can't quite manage on your own efforts.

You should say thank you, rich pricks.

**bogan** · 19th January 2016, 20:06

Originally Posted by mashman

So what you're really saying is that you have no idea how these calculations actually run either. The calculations discard the outliers else the program breaks and you don't get a result i.e. no pretty graph and no answers.

Nah, that's just your ignorance and cognitive bias showing...

Incorrect.

In a general senese you actually graph all results, and if outliers are seen, investigate and remove if they are erroneous. Ie, if somebody mistyped and recorded a pommy git from welly earning 359billion, they'd see it on the graph and go hang on, that doesn't seem right, check back and go nah mate, this guy is clearly up to fuck all and someone added about 9 too many zeroes; so they then fix the data entry mistake.

But if you're just going to sit in the dunce corner flinging insults, I'll leave you with it, at least you're in the properly titled thread this time...

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

no
i found your answer very interesting
but all the other evidence ive read indicates otherwise

and ive read a lot

so i would like to give you the benefit of doubt

its as simple as that

Actually, if you're as well read as you claim, it's as simple as reading what he posted and pointing out how/why it is inaccurate.

**Katman** · 19th January 2016, 20:06

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You should say thank you, rich pricks.

Thanks, but I'll say fuck you instead.

**Brian d marge** · 19th January 2016, 20:19

Originally Posted by bogan

Incorrect.

In a general senese you actually graph all results, and if outliers are seen, investigate and remove if they are erroneous. Ie, if somebody mistyped and recorded a pommy git from welly earning 359billion, they'd see it on the graph and go hang on, that doesn't seem right, check back and go nah mate, this guy is clearly up to fuck all and someone added about 9 too many zeroes; so they then fix the data entry mistake.

But if you're just going to sit in the dunce corner flinging insults, I'll leave you with it, at least you're in the properly titled thread this time...

Actually, if you're as well read as you claim, it's as simple as reading what he posted and pointing out how/why it is inaccurate.

now we aare back on track

pure garbage

as an engineer even when u know the results more often or not u will be using a line of best fit

if and only if all the planets line up on yur great grandmother 101st birthday you may get close to a exact repeatable result exact is the wrong word

so back on topic

bin sultan and george soros worked their arses off and though hard work and good fortune they became rich

its not tui but im adaptable

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**Ocean1** · 19th January 2016, 20:21

Originally Posted by Katman

Thanks, but I'll say fuck you instead.

Fuck all rich about me, dude, I'm the one earning just enough to be in the group paying the most tax.

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