NZTA response to question about wire rope barriers.

[Moise]

Slightly off the original topic, but has anyone noticed the very nasty barriers that have gone up on the causeway section of the NW motorway in Auckland?

They have a thin W section with thin, steel poles supporting this. You'd have no chance if you hit it on a bike.

[eldog]

Slightly off the original topic, but has anyone noticed the very nasty barriers that have gone up on the causeway section of the NW motorway in Auckland?

They have a thin W section with thin, steel poles supporting this. You'd have no chance if you hit it on a bike.

This is exactly what NZTA plan, you to recognise the hazard, slow down and take more care.
What happens when something else goes wrong and you get pushed into the barrier. The results are what this thread is about.

the lack of a concerned response about public safety. It's all about money.......

good on you for noticing another hazard

[flashg]

In parts of the country we get bloody strong winds and also wind gusts. If even for the briefest moment you came close to the centre line, (because of wind) you're fucked because your bars will touch the wire, then it's all over. Hard to be sure what the weather is going to be like all the time. Nice when you leave home and turns to shit before you return.
I remember it being on the news about bikers getting blown off the road returning from the Burt Munroe rally down south. Those WRB's would have chopped up some I'm sure (if present on those roads)

[Moise]

Not if you have Ape hangers!

[Mike.Gayner]

In parts of the country we get bloody strong winds and also wind gusts. If even for the briefest moment you came close to the centre line, (because of wind) you're fucked because your bars will touch the wire, then it's all over. Hard to be sure what the weather is going to be like all the time. Nice when you leave home and turns to shit before you return.
I remember it being on the news about bikers getting blown off the road returning from the Burt Munroe rally down south. Those WRB's would have chopped up some I'm sure (if present on those roads)

If you're really being blown around that much, you should be thankful the wire is there to stop you being blown into an oncoming truck. Personally I've never been blown around that much by wind, so I get the feeling you're just making shit up.

[Moi]

... Personally I've never been blown around that much by wind, so I get the feeling you're just making shit up.

Try the Rimutakas when there's a strong southerly blowing... wind hit the bluff above the road, blew down the bluff and across the road... 300+kg of bike and rider and gear was moved sideways, going slowly as was on the hairpin bend at the summit... enough to blow cars about... road was closed soon after...

really glad the centre of the road was marked with only yellow paint...

However, can see value of barriers - just means we need to ride / drive to the conditions...

[Big Dog]

Slightly off the original topic, but has anyone noticed the very nasty barriers that have gone up on the causeway section of the NW motorway in Auckland?

They have a thin W section with thin, steel poles supporting this. You'd have no chance if you hit it on a bike.

They have some of those on the southern between Drury and Bombay.
Wrb is the backbone with the w beam as a skin over the top.

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[eldog]

Try the Rimutakas when there's a strong southerly blowing... wind hit the bluff above the road, blew down the bluff and across the road... 300+kg of bike and rider and gear was moved sideways, going slowly as was on the hairpin bend at the summit... enough to blow cars about... road was closed soon after...

However, can see value of barriers - just means we need to ride / drive to the conditions.

Them Rimutakas can be exciting when travelling Welly to the Wairarapa in windy conditions

your story reminded me about my first wind storm encounter - blustery conditions picked me and the bike up and moved us 1 whole lane over at 100 kph that was interesting. I had been dealing with high winds and wasn't too worried, it was a sudden wind gust that just picked up the bike and dumped it in less time than I could blink.

I learnt to ride to the conditions that day and look out for places wind gusts could occur.

[russd7]

I remember it being on the news about bikers getting blown off the road returning from the Burt Munroe rally down south. Those WRB's would have chopped up some I'm sure (if present on those roads)

might find that was the brass three yr ago i think, and the cops did a fine job of feeding us bacon butties and eventually closed the road to all traffic once the wind died down and escorted us through so we could utilize the whole road,
at the end of the day if you haven't got the skills to stay in your own lane and anticipate what other traffic is likely to do then get off the fucken road and wait for the wind to die down.
and yes i have ridden and do still ride in strong winds from time to time.

[Big Dog]

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/media-relea...-game-changer/

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[flashg]

might find that was the brass three yr ago i think, and the cops did a fine job of feeding us bacon butties and eventually closed the road to all traffic once the wind died down and escorted us through so we could utilize the whole road,

at the end of the day if you haven't got the skills to stay in your own lane and anticipate what other traffic is likely to do then get off the fucken road and wait for the wind to die down.

and yes i have ridden and do still ride in strong winds from time to time.

Cheers russd7, I knew it was something like that. Mike Gayner will be along shortly to tell you you're that shit up., true.

[Moi]

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/media-relea...-game-changer/

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A positive start...

[Ocean1]

A positive start...

It is.

So let's, for now ignore the fact that it's a minuscule part of barriers nationwide and that it's taken a decade longer than the rest of the world, (during which time every official response to the issue has been "there's no problem") and focus on the good news.

Thanks to whichever of the various official entities share responsibility for the project.

[eldog]

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/media-relea...-game-changer/

And strangely we have a media release about WRB?

didnt need them before...... Have we become less skilled?

I would think the cost of deaths would influence it if pressed enough.

[eldog]

A positive start...

Wait till it's installed then decide. If it's like a lot of things it will be lip service, to be finished in the next ten year budget