Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

'They'?

Are 'they' as accurate as the weather forecasters?

'They' say it's going to rain.....

You know they
https://youtu.be/o6KctnOYCVo?t=7m1s
https://youtu.be/o6KctnOYCVo?t=7m19s

[pritch]

Fuck off you stupid cunt.

Like I've said before, you wouldn't recognise rational debate if it fucked you up the arse.

I rest my case.

'Night all.

[Katman]

Clearly, there is survey/diagnosis bias; as we become more aware of the condition, it is more often checked for, and more often identified.

The condition called autism has been known for about 100 years.

The increase in numbers of diagnosed cases since the 70's is not down to an increase in 'awareness'.

[husaberg]

The condition called autism has been known for about 100 years.

The increase in numbers of diagnosed cases since the 70's is not down to an increase in 'awareness'.

.......................

The number of reported cases of autism increased dramatically in the 1990s and early 2000s. This increase is largely attributable to changes in diagnostic practices; it is not known how much, if any, growth came from real changes in autism's prevalence, and no causal connection to the MMR vaccine has been demonstrated.
Rutter M (2005). "Incidence of autism spectrum disorders: changes over time and their meaning". Acta Paediatr 94 (1): 2–15. doi:10.1111/j.1651-2227.2005.tb01779.x. PMID 15858952.

The recorded prevalence of autism has increased considerably in recent years. This reflects greater recognition, with changes in diagnostic practice associated with more trained diagnosticians; broadening of diagnostic criteria to include a spectrum of disorder; a greater willingness by parents and educationalists to accept the label (in part because of entitlement to services); and better recording systems, among other factors. (Taylor 2006)

The rate in this study is comparable to that in previous birth cohorts from the same area and surveyed with the same methods, suggesting a stable incidence. (Chakrabarti 2005)

Rates of diagnosis of autism have risen since 1980, raising the question of whether some children who previously had other diagnoses are now being diagnosed with autism. We applied contemporary diagnostic criteria for autism to adults with a history of developmental language disorder, to discover whether diagnostic substitution has taken place. A total of 38 adults (aged 15-31y; 31 males, seven females) who had participated in studies of developmental language disorder during childhood were given the Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule--Generic. Their parents completed the Autism Diagnostic Interview--Revised, which relies largely on symptoms present at age 4 to 5 years to diagnose autism. Eight individuals met criteria for autism on both instruments, and a further four met criteria for milder forms of autistic spectrum disorder. Most individuals with autism had been identified with pragmatic impairments in childhood. Some children who would nowadays be diagnosed unambiguously with autistic disorder had been diagnosed with developmental language disorder in the past. This finding has implications for our understanding of the epidemiology of autism.
Autism and diagnostic substitution: evidence from a study of adults with a history of developmental language disorder.
Bishop DV1, Whitehouse AJ, Watt HJ, Line EA.

[bogan]

The condition called autism has been known for about 100 years.

The increase in numbers of diagnosed cases since the 70's is not down to an increase in 'awareness'.

It is at least partially due to that; as per the study I posted, but you cut out of the quote (you often ignore evidence like this I've noted). It was known about ages ago, but the rate of testing for it has been increasing over the years. To expect no correlation between how often it is looked for, and how often it is found, is blatant buffoonery.

[Katman]

A refreshingly balanced view of the issue.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/se...rs/autism-rise

[husaberg]

The condition called autism has been known for about 100 years.

The increase in numbers of diagnosed cases since the 70's is not down to an increase in 'awareness'.

A refreshingly balanced view of the issue.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/se...rs/autism-rise

it also makes a lie of what you posted above and previously.

Autism was first identified in 1943,
"We thought autism was a very rare occurrence, and it's clear that it's not."
"Genetics plays a role in autism and ASD is provided by research on twins. According to the CDC, if one identical twin has autism, there's a 75% chance the other twin will be affected, too.
Many U.S. couples have delayed childbearing, and the older ages of both the mother and the father have been linked with a higher risk of having children with ASD
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/se...sm-rise?page=2

[Katman]

it also makes a lie of what you posted above.

Well I suppose it depends whose version you pick.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/history-of-autism

[husaberg]

Well I suppose it depends whose version you pick.

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/history-of-autism

Nice try, but that wasn't the link you posted now was it.............
The rest though, its plainly obvious that can you not comprehend, just how simplistic you are being, about what is a complex biological condition.
That's not an insult, its just an obvious conclusion, based on your simplistic narcissistic conspiracy attitude.

[TheDemonLord]

Was it like this one?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0616140723.htm

Because if it is, Andrew Wakefield established a link between gastrointestinal problems and autism back in 1998.

A: There is no Wakefield link - cause its been retracted
B: Bacteria is not a Virus - they are, yah know - different.

[TheDemonLord]

I've had the mumps before, guess what? I'm still alive!

But not without long term consequences....

Like Brain Damage and believing all manner of retarded shit you read on the internet.

I'm sorry - but it appears to be terminal.

[husaberg]

But not without long term consequences....

Like Brain Damage and believing all manner of retarded shit you read on the internet.

I'm sorry - but it appears to be terminal.

Thus its not odd at all, that he doesn't consider Rubella vaccinations are necessary for his future spawn.

[mada]

Katman's form of discussion = diss & cuss on everyone who presents valid information that is contrary to his opinion....

[Katman]

Katman's form of discussion = diss & cuss on everyone who presents valid information that is contrary to his opinion....

Not quite.

I "diss & cuss" (you're a sensitive wee thing, aren't you?) at a small bunch of morons whose idea of rational debate doesn't extend much beyond screaming "Anti-vaxxer! Baby-killer! Fuck off to Africa and die!" or repeatedly posting screeds of copy and paste from one man's hatchet job.

(It's much the same as the phrase "Anti-semite!" being trotted out every time anyone mentions the J word).

The fact is that there is a growing number of highly respected members of the medical profession who are speaking out about the undue influence that the pharmaceutical industry is exerting on the medical profession (and that of scientific research) and the inherent corruption that that influence brings. (But don't tell TheDemonLord that - he'll have a melt-down).

[TheDemonLord]

Not quite.

I "diss & cuss" (you're a sensitive wee thing, aren't you?) at a small bunch of morons whose idea of rational debate doesn't extend much beyond screaming "Anti-vaxxer! Baby-killer! Fuck off to Africa and die!"

What's the matter - don't like putting your money where your mouth is? Of course - we both know that you wouldn't go to Africa, because you would most likely catch any number of diseases that have been eradicated in the first world and die.

Which would make you a massive Hypocrite now wouldn't it....

or repeatedly posting screeds of copy and paste from one man's hatchet job.

Holy Projection Batman! You mean like continually referring to Wakefield and his 'research', You mean like continually referring to One Man's claims (that are thus far without any supporting evidence) - Oh wait! That is EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO.

(It's much the same as the phrase "Anti-semite!" being trotted out every time anyone mentions the J word).

Or how we call people who refer to African Americans as 'niggers' as Racist cunts - its about the negative generalizations of an entire group of people - that's why we call you an Anti-Semite (cause you demonstrably are)

The fact is that there is a growing number of highly respected members of the medical profession who are speaking out about the undue influence that the pharmaceutical industry is exerting on the medical profession (and that of scientific research) and the inherent corruption that that influence brings. (But don't tell TheDemonLord that - he'll have a melt-down).

Even IF (and this is a huge, Massive IF) that statement is true - All of those Highly respected Members of the Medical Profession will still tell you that Vaccinations have been (along with anti-biotics) one of the biggest advances in Human health and Longevity in the last 100 years.

This is the problem you seem to be having - some Doctors saying that maybe the system could be better =/= vaccinations are bad. When you can get that through your skull and into the decaying atrophied mass that barely passes for a Brain, you may understand just how dangerous the retarded shit you (and all the other brain dead fuckwits) are spouting. I'll make it really simple:

Cunts like you directly cause other idiots to not Vaccinate their children against preventable virus infections. These children either end up in hospital with Life threatening complications or Die.

In some cases these children go on to infect other children (who whilst may be vaccinated, may have their immune system compromised for any myriad of reasons) and then That child dies.

All because of idiots like you.