Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah, I imagine the costs associated with managing a permanent dose of encephalopathy would be astronomical.

Actually, Death tends to be quite cheap.

[Katman]

Actually, Death tends to be quite cheap.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at there.

Are you equating a permanent case of brain damage to death?

[mada]

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at there.

Are you equating a permanent case of brain damage to death?

Imagine you're an evil conspiring government intent on suppressing the truth about vaccines with your evil drug making funders and media lackeys as part of the Axis of Evil.

What logic is there in you setting up a specific court to listen to claims regarding vaccination injuries and award damages???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court



What if the claims were actually false flags, designed by the government to undermine the credibility of respectable people like Andrew Wakefield and distract him by getting him to waste time on pointless appeals? I mean has anyone actually seen the money physically being handed over after a court ruling? And did anyone actually check that the dollar bills were in fact legal tender and not fake marked cash.

[Katman]

Imagine you're an evil conspiring government intent on suppressing the truth about vaccines with your evil drug making funders and media lackeys as part of the Axis of Evil.

What logic is there in you setting up a specific court to listen to claims regarding vaccination injuries and award damages???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court



What if the claims were actually false flags, designed by the government to undermine the credibility of respectable people like Andrew Wakefield and distract him by getting him to waste time on pointless appeals? I mean has anyone actually seen the money physically being handed over after a court ruling? And did anyone actually check that the dollar bills were in fact legal tender and not fake marked cash.

The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (and it's associated Vaccine Courts) was introduced in the late 80's to put an end to pharmaceutical companies being sued for the damage caused by their products.

(Although I imagine you already know that and were simply being deliberately moronic).

[TheDemonLord]

except that you've never asserted you have perceived a dragon, you just bowled a hypothetical.

And that makes a difference?

i don't do subtle. i stated fairly explicitly
a) who PERCEIVED the world to be flat, not just ran with the science of the day ?
b) do you truly mean to say that no-one like me existed that, if not just to be contrary, would say "no, more of a round shape"?

a) Everyone, since we are not at sufficient altitude to percieve the curvature of the earth
b) probably was, and they were promptly tortured by the various institutions.

really? or were you put into a metal thing with engines and flappy bits, drugged, hypnotised and taken to a truman-esque set of "another country"

Close, except for the Drugged, Hypnotised and the Truman reference. Also Time Zones.

...borderline

Right

objective... as perceived by scientists.

And that is the beauty of science - don't think it's right? You are free to recreate the experiment yourself

no that was reductio ad stupidum, you being the provider of stupid.
that's not logic at all. that's you, yet again, applying your own prejudice to achieve digestable confirmation bias for your tum-tum.

Of course it's stupd - its taking your argument and extending it to the point to show its absurdity.

maybe if you actually had a point you could articulate it.

If you fail to understand the point being that I accept there are things I don't know (the position of Ignorance) and actively seek to enlighten myself, then maybe your position of: there's nothing i don't know, as far as im aware.

might have a few problems with it.

and then we insert an image with you implied as a dot referenced by an arrow and the word "point"

That door swings both ways.

excepting you didn't disprove shit.
just said some literally, objectively, empirically irrelevant shit.

It's the Literal, Objective and Empirical part that makes it Relevant.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at there.

Are you equating a permanent case of brain damage to death?

Shit, you are right - I forgot about you and Yokel!

[Akzle]

And that makes a difference?

yes, because i can't tell you (nor prove either way, except by going into your garage) that you did/do not perceive it, if you honestly (with yourself) assert you do.

a) Everyone, since we are not at sufficient altitude to percieve the curvature of the earth

your mum's not at sufficient altitude

Close, except for the Drugged, Hypnotised and the Truman reference. Also Time Zones.

given that "time" as you reference it, is entirely a human construct (and poorly implemented at that), that means fuck all.
and how do you KNOW that? how do you know that everyone who goes to the "airport" isn't given the same dose and treatment?
how do you know the world hasn't been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth...

Right

toast.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60013...kfast-pleasure

And that is the beauty of science - don't think it's right? You are free to recreate the experiment yourself

have a turn on nibiru/ planet x theory

Of course it's stupd - its taking your argument and extending it to the point to show its absurdity.

no, that's not taking my point at all. that's your flawed extrapolation of where you'd like my point to lead.

there's nothing i don't know, as far as im aware.

still not getting it, huh.

That door swings both ways.

your mums door swings both ways.

[TheDemonLord]

yes, because i can't tell you (nor prove either way, except by going into your garage) that you did/do not perceive it, if you honestly (with yourself) assert you do.

And that is the entire point - you can prove by going into my Garage and from that proof you can either conclude that I am lieing or I am delusional. To be clear - that what I perceived is not in line with reality.

your mum's not at sufficient altitude

She is short...

given that "time" as you reference it, is entirely a human construct (and poorly implemented at that), that means fuck all.
and how do you KNOW that? how do you know that everyone who goes to the "airport" isn't given the same dose and treatment?
how do you know the world hasn't been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth...

GPS, Jet Lag, Observable changes in the land mass, Different meteorological conditions, the water swirls the opposite way down the plug hole, The Constellations that are visible in night sky have changed to be 6 months out. Different Flora and Fauna (especially Migratory specied) Different Seasons.

Shall I go on?

have a turn on nibiru/ planet x theory

you should know by now my thoughts on unsupported Quackery.

no, that's not taking my point at all. that's your extrapolation of where my flawed point leads.

Fixed it for you.

still not getting it, huh.

As I said, what a boring existence.

your mums door swings both ways.

But at least her door isn't attached to a Barn.

[Akzle]

last one.

And that is the entire point - you can prove by going into my Garage and from that proof you can either conclude that I am lieing or I am delusional. To be clear - that what I perceived is not in line with reality.

it would be your reality. your perception becomes no less real for not being shared.
but i have a fairly good relationship with dragons and if you did have one im pretty sure i'd know about it.

She is short...

your mum's sh//
o, wait...

GPS, Jet Lag, Observable changes in the land mass, Different meteorological conditions, the water swirls the opposite way down the plug hole, The Constellations that are visible in night sky have changed to be 6 months out. Different Flora and Fauna (especially Migratory specied) Different Seasons.

Shall I go on?

the truman show.
how, especially how, can you believe a GPS.

you should know by now my thoughts on unsupported Quackery.

disprove it.

Fixed it for you.

no you didn't. you just reaffirmed your bias.

As I said, what a boring existence.

STILL not *getting* it. huh.

But at least her door isn't attached to a Barn.

if by "barn" you mean "uterus" and by "door" you mean....

[TheDemonLord]

last one.

it would be your reality. your perception becomes no less real for not being shared.
but i have a fairly good relationship with dragons and if you did have one im pretty sure i'd know about it.

That's kinda the very definition of 'Delusional' - when your perception is not inline with reality.

the truman show.

Me thinks the Ice you are in is thin - considering Man cannot manipulate the Stars.

how, especially how, can you believe a GPS.

When it gives a reading that is in unison with all the other factors, then....

disprove it.

Wrong - the burden of proof is on the one making the claim - you raised the theory, burden of proof is on you to prove it is valid.

no you didn't. you just reaffirmed your bias.

That is the only response you can make because anything else collapses your house of cards.

STILL not *getting* it. huh.

Or the alternative.

if by "barn" you mean "uterus" and by "door" you mean....

No, I was implying something along the lines of Bestiality and your Mum.

[bogan]

Equating the belief or disbelief in god to that of antivaccers disbelief in basic science is at a cursory glance, a poor choice of strawman. Simply because there is widespread belief for a higher power, and scientific scrutiny cannot disprove it. But then if you look closer, it's some sort of reacharound strawman, since applying similar scientific scrutiny to an antivaccer's belief, gives a much different overall answer, yet one that is similar to the zeolots and cultists. Is that what anti-vaccers are, just more zealots and cultists championing uneducation and illogic?

Now I suppose you're going to tell us it was "false flag" ???

Post of the week

[Drew]

Why would they have a mandate like that for any other reason than preparing for a worst possible scenario?

No one has said that there aren't people who react to the vaccines. He government obviously knows it too, and is prepared to compensate the families of those kids. I don't see how that backs up anything you are trying to say.

Your problem is in your perception of 'god'.

My perception of 'god' is an all encompassing energy source.

The sort of energy source that makes atoms vibrate.

All matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration giving the illusion of solidity. So all things are your interpretation of God.

Then why call it God?

Why not. God cannot be defined, so the word can mean whatever anyone wants it to be.

And anyway, getting back to the matter in hand.......

Is no-one curious as to the settlement amounts for successful vaccine injury claims?

Like, if you found out that someone was awarded a sum numbering in the hundreds of thousands of dollars (or even into the millions), would you at least say to yourself "fuck me, that must have been a fucking severe allergic reaction" or would you maintain an air of complete disinterest? (Like I suspect TDL would).

I'm not wondering. It makes exactly the same sense as ACC sitting on a huge chunk of change for when Muppets hurt them/ourselves.

There are things outside of anyone's control that aren't for seen. So when it goes tits up, they are prepared for it.

[Katman]

So when it goes tits up, they are prepared for it.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was suggesting Drew.

And to take that thought a little further, it could suggest that they're actually expecting vaccine compensation claims to go 'tits up' sometime in the not too distant future.

[bogan]

And to take that thought a little further, it could suggest that they're actually expecting vaccine compensation claims to go 'tits up' sometime in the not too distant future.

You think the money they have squirreled away would cover any sort of negligence on the scale you imply? How cute, your grasp of numbers is like a 2 year old saying 'twelve' when asked how old mummy is

[Katman]

You think the money they have squirreled away would cover any sort of negligence on the scale you imply? How cute, your grasp of numbers is like a 2 year old saying 'twelve' when asked how old mummy is

Ah well, if it's sitting at 3.5 billion at the moment it could be considerably more than that by the time they actually need to call on it.

And if they really get desperate they could just up the 75 cents levy on each vaccine to $1.50.

They could be sitting on eleventy billion before you know it.