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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    An SKS is a useless gun for nz conditions. It is made for warfare only IMO.
    It is blimmin' superb on goats!

    In fact, in the bush it it blimmin' superb. Nothing more than 100m, rugged, reliable.
    Also quite handy when you need to descend scree and require a wooden "stick" so slow the descent a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    It is blimmin' superb on goats!

    In fact, in the bush it it blimmin' superb. Nothing more than 100m, rugged, reliable.
    Also quite handy when you need to descend scree and require a wooden "stick" so slow the descent a bit.

    Fucking good guns.
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    As an American I feel compelled to say first that we know better than you that we have a bunch of problems, chronic problems, to deal with, but that we get a little tired of being told how ignorant and uncivilized we are by others with their own problems. The Economist, otherwise usually the best of the remaining news and opinion magazines, can hardly publish an issue without an article advising us of how retarded we are for retaining the death penalty. FWIW, many of us feel that our methods of execution are if anything too humane for someone who rapes and murders a child, and that any truly civilized country should have a death penalty as an instrument of ordinary societal hygiene in such cases.

    But I've digressed from THIS weeks' America-bashing, over the supposed "executions by cop." The one in Minnesota looks like a tragic misunderstanding by the cop, who appears to have been too quick on the trigger. More information is needed. But in the cop's defense, since many have already decided that he was all too ready to blow away a black man, consider this. First, any cop very likely has a family for which he is the main or sole provider, and if it comes to a choice between his life and that of a suspect who appears to be drawing a deadly weapon, protecting HIS (the cop's) family's interest comes first. In THIS instance, as we have it so far, the cop saw someone who looked as if he might have been the perp in a felony, and decided to pull him over and have a talk with him. In calling in the stop, and radioing DMV with the license plate, the DMV reported back that Philandro Castile had no criminal record but had an astoundingly long list of driving violations including driving with a suspended license more than once, driving under the influence (while carrying a child), driving without insurance, and on and on. This would certainly indicate that the cop was going to be pulling over a guy who to say the least was something of a flake, a man with an attitude, not an ordinary motorist. And remember, the cop already thought he might be pulling over a person who had just commited a felony, a desperate man.
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    What exact moves were made by Castile as the cop tensely looked in the window, we do not know. As I say, for now it appears like the cop tragically misunderstood Castile's intent. But for someone who appears to have been a good guy in other parts of his life, Castile certainly had a long record of lousy judgement when he got into an automobile. It is not unreasonable to guess that he wasn't too smart about keeping both hands in sight, communicating clearly and making any moves slowly in front of a cop. Anyone with any brains knows to do this, to reassure a cop who can't know exactly what he is dealing with when he comes up to your door. Like Castile, I recently got stopped for a burned-out brake light (though in his case this was a pretext for the cop). I kept both hands in sight while explaining that I was going to reach, slowly, for my registration/insurance/I.D.. My guess was that Castile didn't do it this way. Damned shame. He didn't need to die. But I'm not ready to condemn the cop without knowing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattle smitty View Post
    As an American I feel compelled to say first that we know better than you that we have a bunch of problems, chronic problems, to deal with, but that we get a little tired of being told how ignorant and uncivilized we are by others with their own problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattle smitty View Post
    As an American I feel compelled to say first that we know better than you that we have a bunch of problems, chronic problems, to deal with, but that we get a little tired of being told how ignorant and uncivilized we are by others with their own problems. The Economist, otherwise usually the best of the remaining news and opinion magazines, can hardly publish an issue without an article advising us of how retarded we are for retaining the death penalty. FWIW, many of us feel that our methods of execution are if anything too humane for someone who rapes and murders a child, and that any truly civilized country should have a death penalty as an instrument of ordinary societal hygiene in such cases.

    But I've digressed from THIS weeks' America-bashing, over the supposed "executions by cop." The one in Minnesota looks like a tragic misunderstanding by the cop, who appears to have been too quick on the trigger. More information is needed. But in the cop's defense, since many have already decided that he was all too ready to blow away a black man, consider this. First, any cop very likely has a family for which he is the main or sole provider, and if it comes to a choice between his life and that of a suspect who appears to be drawing a deadly weapon, protecting HIS (the cop's) family's interest comes first. In THIS instance, as we have it so far, the cop saw someone who looked as if he might have been the perp in a felony, and decided to pull him over and have a talk with him. In calling in the stop, and radioing DMV with the license plate, the DMV reported back that Philandro Castile had no criminal record but had an astoundingly long list of driving violations including driving with a suspended license more than once, driving under the influence (while carrying a child), driving without insurance, and on and on. This would certainly indicate that the cop was going to be pulling over a guy who to say the least was something of a flake, a man with an attitude, not an ordinary motorist. And remember, the cop already thought he might be pulling over a person who had just commited a felony, a desperate man.
    .
    What exact moves were made by Castile as the cop tensely looked in the window, we do not know. As I say, for now it appears like the cop tragically misunderstood Castile's intent. But for someone who appears to have been a good guy in other parts of his life, Castile certainly had a long record of lousy judgement when he got into an automobile. It is not unreasonable to guess that he wasn't too smart about keeping both hands in sight, communicating clearly and making any moves slowly in front of a cop. Anyone with any brains knows to do this, to reassure a cop who can't know exactly what he is dealing with when he comes up to your door. Like Castile, I recently got stopped for a burned-out brake light (though in his case this was a pretext for the cop). I kept both hands in sight while explaining that I was going to reach, slowly, for my registration/insurance/I.D.. My guess was that Castile didn't do it this way. Damned shame. He didn't need to die. But I'm not ready to condemn the cop without knowing more.
    Mate remember you are talking to a fair amount of been nowhere done nothing 'law enforcement experts' that cherry pick their information from dubious at best internet sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post

    One clown said police shouldn't be issued with guns, they should instead be issued with nets to throw over the criminals .
    Well it worked for Spiderman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seattle smitty View Post
    since many have already decided that he was all too ready to blow away a black man
    Is it not self evident that he did exactly that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Mate remember you are talking to a fair amount of been nowhere done nothing 'law enforcement experts' that cherry pick their information from dubious at best internet sources.
    Please excuse the brainwashed propagandised KB muppets.

    They know not what they do.

    I don't like cops much as most people, but this BLM media hype is complete bullshit.

    More crazy shit is to come form this political terrorist group financed by the likes of George Soros and friend's.




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    There were another four policemen shot in baton rogue yesterday.. and then France ... the boys are working overtime turkeys had a go at martial law ... one wonders if uncle George and zbiggie styles are have a final fling ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattle smitty View Post
    As an American I feel compelled to say first that we know better than you that we have a bunch of problems, chronic problems, to deal with, but that we get a little tired of being told how ignorant and uncivilized we are by others with their own problems...
    Point taken - people should make sure their own back yard is tidy first.

    Sometimes though, America sets itself up for ridicule. For example, it has emerged that on the eve of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, the public are not allowed to carry water pistols (in case they squirt a delegate). Fruit is also banned. But - they can carry firearms, including assault rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattle smitty View Post
    , can hardly publish an issue without an article advising us of how retarded we are for retaining the death penalty. FWIW, many of us feel that our methods of execution are if anything too humane for someone who rapes and murders a child, and that any truly civilized country should have a death penalty as an instrument of ordinary societal hygiene in such cases.
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    Here in lil old *We don't believe in the death penalty* NZ, we've had a couple of rapist/murderers exonerated. With your system, be a bit hard to shake their hands on the way out I guess. What are your thoughts on that?

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    Americans as a whole I find ..usually very pleasant,polite people even the loud ones
    They have tried ,off top of head and because I can't be arsed checking, they have tried 5 times to get rid of the venician, British scum
    Lincoln , McKinley, Garfield? And a revolution or two ...oh and Kennedy , a different bloodline and a great speech in 1961 ended his career.
    Unfortunately money talks and bullshyt walks and the game is rigged.
    So ,all over the world , the average person is becoming dumber than a sack of potatoes, no knowledge of how the game is being played. Has his or her arse being stressed by work and the need to work, and of course consumerism
    So add that all together add a gun or to, a scapegoat,or a perceived problem,cause and we have ignition

    Which is what the big boys want , because then they can institute martial law

    How's turkey, France , Thailand? Doing ?

    She's all going to plan ... all they need now is a trigger and she's all on , me thinks

    https://youtu.be/61ass15qBq4

    Ho boy the future looks bright for humanity




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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Americans as a whole I find ..usually very pleasant,polite people even the loud ones
    They have tried ,off top of head and because I can't be arsed checking, they have tried 5 times to get rid of the venician, British scum
    Lincoln , McKinley, Garfield? And a revolution or two ...oh and Kennedy , a different bloodline and a great speech in 1961 ended his career.
    Unfortunately money talks and bullshyt walks and the game is rigged.
    So ,all over the world , the average person is becoming dumber than a sack of potatoes, no knowledge of how the game is being played. Has his or her arse being stressed by work and the need to work, and of course consumerism
    So add that all together add a gun or to, a scapegoat,or a perceived problem,cause and we have ignition

    Which is what the big boys want , because then they can institute martial law

    How's turkey, France , Thailand? Doing ?

    She's all going to plan ... all they need now is a trigger and she's all on , me thinks

    https://youtu.be/61ass15qBq4

    Ho boy the future looks bright for humanity




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    Why do they want martial law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Here in lil old *We don't believe in the death penalty* NZ, we've had a couple of rapist/murderers exonerated. With your system, be a bit hard to shake their hands on the way out I guess. What are your thoughts on that?
    if the system was infallible, i would support the IRL banhammer. "Social hygiene" is a great phrase. Once someone has crossed over to, say, beating a child to death, stabbing a woman 50 times, molesting children, they IMO, void their right to life.
    (i go one further and propose if they're involved in banking or politics they're also suitable for target practice)

    this voting pilarva is topsy turvy. instead of voting anyone in, we should be able to vote them out. (permanently)

    ...knowing who runs the circus and how, and who participates no sentence is appropriate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Why do they want martial law?
    They saw some Bruce Lee movies, and thought that looks cool?
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