Nicky Hager

[Katman]

Katman, Does this qualify as presently? I was anxiously awaiting your book review but if you did one I must've missed it.

You could always read it for yourself.

[husaberg]

You could always read it for yourself.

Yet You made the above statement without reading the book yourself, is that why you now seem to admit it contains no actual facts............

[Katman]

Yet You made the above statement without reading the book yourself, is that why you now seem to admit it contains no actual facts............

I'm sure the book contains a great many facts.

An investigation would determine just how many.

[Maha]

Katman, Does this qualify as presently?

Lucky the term Jiffy wasn't used, that's approximately 33.3564 picoseconds and not even Rossi is that quick.

[Maha]

People got killed in a war zone. ...?

No way!

It happens from time to time, if bombs and bullets happen within your vicinity then shit will undoubtedly occur.

[husaberg]

I'm sure the book contains a great many facts.

An investigation would determine just how many.

Like the fact Jon Stephenson the guy who intervewed the allegeded victims has never ever been to the village where they claim the incident occured......
or the fact that gps tracking of the mission show the NZ sas never even went with 2 km's of the village at all that stephensons alleged victims say they did.

[Katman]

Like the fact Jon Stephenson the guy who intervewed the allegeded victims has never ever been to the village where they claim the incident occured......

That's right - the villagers came to him.

[bogan]

or the fact that gps tracking of the mission show the NZ sas never even went with 10 km's of the village at all that stephensons alleged victims say they did.

that seems a lot like a verifiable piece of evidence, are you allowed to post those sorts of things in a Katspiracy thread?

[husaberg]

that seems a lot like a verifiable piece of evidence, are you allowed to post those sorts of things in a Katspiracy thread?

Yeah it also sounds like Stephson rather than visiting the village like a true investigator would he just put the word out that he was investigating a allegded masacre and he wanted to tallk to victims families
funny enough according to katman above he had people come foward all to willing to tell him what he wanted to hear (for a price no doubt)..........
A true to life self-fulfilling prophecy emerged.
The only wrinkle is the details like location don't actually match up to verified facts, What stephenson and Hagger and katman dismiss as minor little details, like actual location, are pretty important when it can be proven the Kiwis were nowhere near there.

[Katman]

that seems a lot like a verifiable piece of evidence, are you allowed to post those sorts of things in a Katspiracy thread?

The location of the villages is incorrectly marked on one of the maps in the book.

We've been through all this already.

[husaberg]

The location of the villages is incorrectly marked on one of the maps in the book.

We've been through all this already.

No Katman even Hager subsequently admitted the location of the alledeged village incident is actually substainally different to the location which the alledged victims gave to Stephenson.....
later co-incidentially the allegded village victims again changed their story and said it was actually the location shown by the NZDF afterall.

#Note prior to this Hager and Stephenson had said

In a statement sent to media on Sunday night, the authors say it’s “actually impossible that the story is wrong”.

[Katman]

No Katman even Hager later admitted the location of the alledeged village incident is actually substainally different to the location which the alledged victims gave to Stephenson.....

He admitted that the locations are incorrectly marked on one of the maps in the book.

[husaberg]

He admitted that the locations are incorrectly marked on one of the maps in the book.

No Katman even Hager subsequently admitted the location of the alledeged village incident is actually substainally different to the location which the alledged victims gave to Stephenson.....
later co-incidentially the allegded village victims again changed their story and said it was actually the location shown by the NZDF afterall.

#Note prior to this Hager and Stephenson had said

In a statement sent to media on Sunday night, the authors say it’s “actually impossible that the story is wrong”.

yet
Hager and Stephenson say two villages in the Tirgiran Valley, called Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, were targeted, The NZDF say New Zealand soldiers have ever visited these villages.

[Katman]

Hager and Stephenson say two villages in the Tirgiran Valley, called Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, were targeted, The NZDF say New Zealand soldiers have ever visited these villages.

Dude, every time I flip a coin to decide whether to go with one of New Zealand's leading Human Rights lawyers or with Kiwibiker's leading fucking retard, you lose.

It must be a sign.

[bogan]

Dude, every time I flip a coin to decide whether to go with one of New Zealand's leading Human Rights lawyers or with Kiwibiker's leading fucking retard, you lose.

It must be a sign.

Sounds like an incredibly biased coin, one might even go so far as to say that it defies logic; but then, that's how you reach most of your conclusions anyway isn't it...