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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post

    Who the fuck has ever suggested that concentration camps didn't exist?
    The Germans.....

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    Peeling back the covers in Trumpland?

    The Curious Case of Jared Kushner and the Israel Lobby http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48329.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    The main website has been down for some time. Yesterday there was a sign saying that it will be back but today I can't find it. That's not to say it isn't there, just that it isn't easy to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Of course they existed.

    Who the fuck has ever suggested that concentration camps didn't exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    The Germans.....

    Everybody except the Germans have said they didn't exist .. (Oh yeah - and the Jews ...)
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Lies repeated until they become fact? - Is this an example?

    Fact or fake? Who really is threatening who here?

    Iran is like Nazi Germany in its 'ruthless commitment to murder Jews' – Netanyahu https://www.davidicke.com/article/44...jews-netanyahu

    All this from a man with possibly more nuclear strike power than any other country in the world and has threatened to use it to destroy the world if attacked - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


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    A move so insane that I can only conclude it's a deliberate ploy to incite further violence - which will be used as justification for Israel's next onslaught on the Palestinians.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1E01PS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    A move so insane that I can only conclude it's a deliberate ploy to incite further violence - which will be used as justification for Israel's next onslaught on the Palestinians.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1E01PS
    It's actually more serious than that. This will upset every muslim in the world including the 500 million or so in SE Asia. It also has more potential to unite the various factions in the arab world than any peace plan could have done. They would all be united in their anger at the Western world and the antipathy may not be restricted to Trump or the USA.
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    Is Jared Kushner really trying to negotiate a peace deal or is he instead just giving Netanyahu what he wants - an excuse to up the Middle East ante?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...t-peace-283770

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    A move so insane that I can only conclude it's a deliberate ploy to incite further violence - which will be used as justification for Israel's next onslaught on the Palestinians.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1E01PS
    Sure as shit wouldn't want to be working in their embassy anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Sure as shit wouldn't want to be working in their embassy anytime soon.
    I'm sure they'll be seen as sacrificial lambs - just like Benghazi.

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    They claim 9/11 was Americas new Pearl Habour?

    So what was the real - real "Pearl Habour" all about? - the same deception and lies to the American people and the world to justify American entry into WW2 against the Axis forces?

    Was Pearl Harbour really a "surprise" attack? or were they clearly aware of what was coming and chose to ignore and allow it because they had orchestrated the whole event?

    Historical fact - Not fake news!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Sure as shit wouldn't want to be working in their embassy anytime soon.
    Sure as shit woud not want to travel in embassy vehicles from Jerusalem to the real seat of Israeli Government - Tel Aviv ... need a fucken armored convoy to get through the Palestinians .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Sure as shit woud not want to travel in embassy vehicles from Jerusalem to the real seat of Israeli Government - Tel Aviv ... need a fucken armored convoy to get through the Palestinians .
    The Knesset is already located in Jerusalem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is Jared Kushner really trying to negotiate a peace deal or is he instead just giving Netanyahu what he wants - an excuse to up the Middle East ante?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...t-peace-283770
    I'm fucked if I know. I just got into a highly charged discussion with a friends elderly Jewish mate. Rather predictable, my family all died in the Holocaust, I lived in a ghetto etc etc (he must be a bloody sight older than he looks then) when really I am honestly worried that Israel is doing that right now to the Palestinians and this whole thing is lining up a final solution (that was the phrase he got snotty about) to get rid of them... The vehicle to achieve that might actually be a war with Iran although I don't think the USA wants that...

    What really worries me is the lining up of US, Israeli and Saudi foreign policy. Fuck me they have just about become and axis of 'if not quite evil, not exactly nice either'...

    As per usual if you criticize any thing pro Israel you are accused of being an anti semite and despicable... Pretty well the alt rights main tactic to divert debate on issues and belittle and insult the opposition...

    Its funny - I always thought I was a reasonably open minded person but apparently I'm not

    Oh well, believe it or not - I'm interested in your opinions (yes I was shocked) on this whole fuckin mess and where its going to go...

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