The 1080 debate

[Katman]

Actually this thread definitely is about hunting, the anti 1080 movement is about hunting.

Well my opposition to 1080 has nothing to do with hunting.

[husaberg]

Dude, if you'd like to try getting hunting banned, knock yourself out.

It's not what this thread's about though.

You claim to be interested only in human treatment of animals so thats your agenda only when it suits is it.

I'm all for protecting native species but is choosing the most inhumane method, simply because it's the cheapest option, really the way an advanced society should deal with an issue?

Well my opposition to 1080 has nothing to do with hunting.

only it seems 90% of the people that protest about 1080 are hunters. the rest are a varous assortment of ban everything idiots and a internet troll from Taupo
http://fishingoutdoors.org/hunting-i...080-party.html

So isnt it about time you told us all of the other alternative methods

There are viable alternatives.
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[Woodman]

Well my opposition to 1080 has nothing to do with hunting.

So how was it first brought to your attention? My guess is it started from the hunting community.

[Katman]

So how was it first brought to your attention? My guess is it started from the hunting community.

I seem to remember it originally coming to my attention after seeing videos of unintended victims of 1080.

[mada]

What about the humane treatment of cockroaches, flys, and ants inside homes?

#Baninsecticides

[jasonu]

Yes, it appears that everything comes back to cost.

Doesn't it always?

[Katman]

What about the humane treatment of cockroaches, flys, and ants inside homes?

#Baninsecticides

It probably won't come as a shock to you to learn that I don't use insecticides either.

[Woodman]

I seem to remember it originally coming to my attention after seeing videos of unintended victims of 1080.

So not from hunters then? So you're the one.

[Katman]

So not from hunters then? So you're the one.

I'm 'the one' what?

[TheDemonLord]

I'm 'the one' what?

Woodman is saying that the video you most likely saw, was made or distributed or highlighted to the wider populace through the efforts of the Hunting community.

If it wasn't, he's implying that you are the original vector for the anti-1080 debate happening at the moment.

[Katman]

Woodman is saying that the video you most likely saw, was made or distributed or highlighted to the wider populace through the efforts of the Hunting community.

Or it was made, distributed or highlighted by the owner of the horse that was in the process of dying.

[mada]

Definitely a lot of humane friendly anti-1080'ers

[husaberg]

Or it was made, distributed or highlighted by the owner of the horse that was dying.

was it just as dead as this horse or more dead
https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/north-...orse-shot-dead
or these
https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/wild-horses/

I'd be more inclined to ask how the persons horse gained access to the 1080.
No doubt that information will be glossed over.........

[Katman]

I'd be more inclined to ask how the persons horse gained access to the 1080.

Probably through indiscriminate spreading of the bait.

[husaberg]

Probably through indiscriminate spreading of the bait.

Only thats not how it works the areas near inhabited areas are excluded with wide margins put in place and the drops are GPS tracked generally if domestic animals are killed its becuase they are trespassing on DOC land.
All the areas adjacent the drops the landowners are notified and are shown the maps and sign a form stating they understand.

Nohing to do with the spreading of 1080 is indiscriminate.

On the other side of the coin anti 1080 activist have managed to miraculously "find" 1080 bait even before drops have been made in areas where none was even used. Make out what you will about that.