The 2017 Election Thread

[carbonhed]

Really how many other what Oceans is trying to palm off as simple market fluctuations have there been in america where the republicans were not in charge.
Esp Considering ocean posted all economic collapses all occurred under socialists which is clearly untrue.
Maybe if there is screeds of data that shows it happened under the Democrats in the US you should go post it.

I will start you off

Dot Com Bubble
March 2000
President Rep Dem Dem Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Dem
Congress Rep, Rep, Rep, Dem


Buggar the was the republicans as well

Rob Cameron whose was a pretty famous NZ investment banker ex Fay Richwite ex Co founder Cameron Partners the guy John Key called in to chair the group to reform the NZ lending rules after the GFC.
He said of the 87 Crash i quote.
the biggest one-day fall in the history of the stock exchange. Thirty years ago this month, in the era of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, yuppies and banker chic, the financial world collapsed."Rob Carmeron Investment banker.

But yeah Ocean says it was otherwise and who is Rob Cameron to disagree with Ocean

Yeah I think everybody knows that husaberks world is black and white. Just like katspams. Endlessly boringly black and white. On and on and on and on and on andonandonandon........

You are a boring motherfucker who persuades nobody. Is that the plan?

Have you ever heard of cognitive bias you fucking tool?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogn...Cognitive_bias

[Swoop]

...you want your cake and you also want to eat it.

Mmm. Cake.

Speaking as a person who occasionally has cake in the house, yes I do want to eat it!
What's the point in buying cake and NOT eating it?

Presumably one answer could be to piss off socialists who think they are entitled to my cake?

[husaberg]

Yeah I think everybody knows that husaberks world is black and white. Just like katspams. Endlessly boringly black and white. On and on and on and on and on andonandonandon........

You are a boring motherfucker who persuades nobody. Is that the plan?

Have you ever heard of cognitive bias you fucking tool?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogn...Cognitive_bias

You could you ever change your mind, there is so little to change.
But yeah, your echo chamber Ra Ra right wing, So how much of that do you think people take notice of, especially considering its so easily disproved.
Of course you would say you could back it up, But the real truth is you can't. Or you already would have.
Just remember i only respond to your and Oceans so easily disproved katspam.
As for Black and white Ocean made a statement that was black and white only it was not supported by facts you might think thats a shade of grey but its clearly not.
Also Katmans clearly pink in his views and demeanor.

So you never answered, does in your opinion does Ocean really know more than Rob Cameron did about Finance and economics.

[Swoop]

Well, the tooth monster's visit to Europe to get better trade for the farmers has gone successfully - NOT!

A reduction in trade is possible. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12198590

[oldrider]

How to garner support and enthusiasm for political policies French style:- https://twitter.com/i/status/1090406601767510016 - as advocated by certain KB posters?

[mashman]

How to garner support and enthusiasm for political policies French style:- https://twitter.com/i/status/1090406601767510016 - as advocated by certain KB posters?

Is it not fascistic to impose a disproportionate tax on the owners of production

[sidecar bob]

Oh dear, I'm sure there's a logical explanation apart from the obvious, "they are full of unresearched hot wind that bought votes"
I'll leave the correct explanation to Husa.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...weighs-in.html

[husaberg]

Oh dear, I'm sure there's a logical explanation apart from the obvious, "they are full of unresearched hot wind that bought votes"
I'll leave the correct explanation to Husa.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...weighs-in.html

Looks to be a rip roaring success when you scale it back to the fact it was done by politicians.
If its leveled off the house price its achieved one aim at least.
The CHCH rebuild under national only built about 5000 houses a year and they pumped in billions of dollars.
I am more interested in how the ex National mp party whip Jamie Lee Ross is going to go.
Its going to be real awkward for Simon and Sarah Dowie especially seeing she is currently under police investigation for text messages she sent.

She should do a Bill English and say she forgot the 100's of text messages.

Straight up Question Bob, do you think National can win an election with Bridges as its leader?

[sidecar bob]

Looks to be a rip roaring success when you scale it back to the fact it was done by politicians.
If its leveled off the house price its achieved one aim at least
I am more interested in how the ex National mp party whip Jamie Lee Ross is going to go.
Its going to be real awkward for Simon and Sarah Dowie especially seeing she is currently under investigation for text messages she sent.

She could do a Bill English and say she forgot the 100's of text messages.
Straight up Question Bob, do you think National can win an election with Bridges as its leader?

I'm beyond giving a fuck about that at present & possibly for ever, but great red herring action on your part.

[husaberg]

I'm beyond giving a fuck about that at present & possibly for ever, but great red herring action on your part.

Red herring, Nah shes more a bluff oyster
What do you think the Kiwibuild questions are suddenly in the news for
its just a lame spin attempt to take the spotlight off the ongoing National party soap opera.
Going to be some awkward moments in the halls.

So you never answered do you think National can win the election with Simon Bridges as leader?
Its an easy question i would have thought

[jasonu]

Looks to be a rip roaring success when you scale it back to the fact it was done by politicians.


Straight up Question Bob, do you think National can win an election with Bridges as its leader?

You're havin' a laugh!!!!!


and no.

[sidecar bob]

Red herring, Nah shes more a bluff oyster
What do you think the Kiwibuild questions are suddenly in the news for
its just a lame spin attempt to take the spotlight off the ongoing National party soap opera.
Going to be some awkward moments in the halls.

So you never answered do you think National can win the election with Simon Bridges as leader?
Its an easy question i would have thought

My answer was that I couldn't really give a fuck either way, so you can make that whatever suits your agenda on my behalf.
In your world, news about the real & genuine shortcomings of the govt's actions vs their promises is just to to take the spotlight off National is quite deluded of you & the "can do no wrong" attitude such as you are demonstrating is threatening to our personal freedom.

[Ocean1]

What do you think the Kiwibuild questions are suddenly in the news for
its just a lame spin attempt to take the spotlight off the ongoing National party soap opera.

Yeah that's the reason.

Nothing to do with labour's complete failure to produce even a couple of percent of what they promised.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/pro...s-are-scrapped

Where did they think the resources to make it work would come from? While in the same breath promising "No New Taxes".

[mashman]

Where did they think the resources to make it work would come from? While in the same breath promising "No New Taxes".

Probably thought they'd use some of the 70/80 billion that billy bob slime ball borrowed.

[husaberg]

My answer was that I couldn't really give a fuck either way, so you can make that whatever suits your agenda on my behalf.
In your world, news about the real & genuine shortcomings of the govt's actions vs their promises is just to to take the spotlight off National is quite deluded of you.

Your answer is rather telling
You wont say that if you the current leader of your preerd Gov is capable of wining the next election.
If anyone is trying to shift a spotlight off a subject it plainly you.

So Kiwi built hasnt yet met optimistic targets yet ,big deal,you didn't want kiwibuild anyway, infact you said we didn't need more houses, National did buggar at al in 9 years about building more houses in Auckland.
Hiding their head in the stand saying what housing crisis wasn't particularly successful.
paying out for endless motel rooms for homeless people wasn't successful unless you owned the motels.
Labour had 2 years to fix 9 years of National running down infrastructure and systems.
They also have to pay off the massive overseas Debt national ran up while there were in power but i guess you dont want to talk about that either.