Beehive occupation.

[TheDemonLord]

That's actually quite good. These days I usually scroll past most of your stuff, your mental contortions are just not worth the trouble. Couldn't miss that one though.

I aim to please....
















(unlike a Stormtrooper)

[TheDemonLord]

Read the post above this one I'm now quoting ... regarding causes of death. And a coroners ruling in regards to a cause of death.

The point being made, that the official stats don't have confirmed suicide data past 2018, as per your article - it's suspected suicides.

Granted most of them will be mere formality, but suspected doesn't equal confirmed.

[Kickaha]

The point being made, that the official stats don't have confirmed suicide data past 2018, as per your article - it's suspected suicides.

Granted most of them will be mere formality, but suspected doesn't equal confirmed.

You're just being aa argumentative cunt because your lying bullshit was caught out, so what happed if the suspected suicides turn out not to be a suicide ? it
will be an even bigger decrease in suicides that's what, either way you were talking shit

It's enough to show you were talking shit or do you want to ignore the press release by the Ministry of Health and Mental Health foundation as well which they had to do because of idiots like you spreading the lie about increases in suicides

There is official data to June 2021 which shows the decrease

[TheDemonLord]

It's enough to show you were talking shit or do you want to ignore the press release by the Ministry of Health and Mental Health foundation as well which they had to do because of idiots like you spreading the lie about increases in suicides

There is official data to at least 2020 which shows the decrease

The official data, as per the link I posted is suspected.

Suspected =/= confirmed.

Personally - I know of several people whose mental health took a nose dive during lockdown.

One started smoking again (despite not smoking for 10 years)
Another had a Daughter that had to spend time in a facility due to Lockdowns exacerbating her eating disorder (2 years without incident)
Another had issues because they couldn't visit their therapist for several months

So, based on what I have directly observed due to Lockdowns - with people I personally know, yeah - I do believe that the suspected Suicide stats aren't telling the whole story and when we get the confirmed stats, we might get a different picture.

As for the Government response - you'll forgive my cynicism of them towing the party line of 'No, there was nothing wrong or immoral with Lockdowns'

[husaberg]

It's enough to show you were talking shit or do you want to ignore the press release by the Ministry of Health and Mental Health foundation as well which they had to do because of idiots like you spreading the lie about increases in suicides

There is official data to June 2021 which shows the decrease

He has previously claimed to know more the The NZ mental health foundation.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131125016
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131125308
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131125154

The letter was written on behalf of he NZ Mental health foundation the person who wrote it happens to be woman
Are you seriously that out of touch with reality.
https://www.mentalhealth.org.nz/home...or-mark-dawson


Why would you think you would know more about suicide in NZ than the NZ mental health foundation does?

ps as well as liking twiight novels Sophia has a BA from the University of Auckland, majoring in psychology.

pps i notice still have yet to produce any facts just opinions.

You claimed to have produced evidence from prominent experts directly linking Suicide to causes other than what is clearly spelled out as being factors.
You have not done so yet but keep on making out you somehow have.
You claimed the reason there was a difference between male and female suicides and it was directly attributed to "RADICAL FEMINISM"
Even though its clear more females actually attempt suicide, A fact you keep glossing over in the hope no one notices.
I have asked you to produce evidence that the cause of Male suicides is Racial feminism over and over again, So where is it?
All you are posting is your opinion.

ps I really enjoy how your continued anti feminist rants ignore that more women attempt Suicide plus also there has been a larger number of males as far back as the 1920's that die from Suicide which is generally associated with there freer access and familiarity with firearms. But bugger the logic Maybe in your mind the rot really started with those women getting the vote.

So in your leaned opinion (that is i am sure even better then the LTSA judging by your disdain showed for the NZ mental health foundation)
Is radical feminism also responsible for the Crash stats and deaths that show men are far more likely to die /mile than women traveled as well.
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Or could there possibly be other reasons

To put it bluntly Your points are pointless, Yet they are far still far sharper than your barbs.



So was Harry potter, a shit load of John grishman novels, lord of the rings, the da vinci code, as was the Female eunuch by Germaine Greer
Which you dismissed as being radical feminism so that another of your misses. Especially considering she is a hell of a lot more famous than your kermitt the frog.
Mcdonalds sells a lot of food but it doesnt mean it is goof=d for you or the best food, Peterson is fodder for his target market.



Was was silly was for you to claim it suicide was the biggest killer of under 25's when you really ment only in a country in certain years. And that it was epdemic proportions when the truth was it was actually dropping and not only that female suicides were not static as you had said for those years you later specified they had risen by 40%. to get around the 40% rise you then tried to use a different set of years for the females. which you have never explained you just ignore that.
To top it all offf you then blamed radical feminism for the difference in the male adn female stats only issue is there is many other reasons behind the difference and no one other than Peterson cults thinks its radical feminism.
Nor does it explain why that difference has always existed.



Whatever no one else cares what you think enough to argue with you. Even cassina or whoever Graystone is, cant be bothered
i cant be arsed multiquoted you in replies its not worth the effort. 4/5 of your replies are plucked out of thin air.
You claim everything is proof, because you ignore anything that doesn't suit. You have the strongest confirmation bias this side of Katspam.
Any thing on one side for you is proof any thing contrary is ignored or dismissed as not be significant to you, Yet this is what the worlds experts in suicide say, but you claim to know better.
Just like your total dismissal of the NZ mental heath foundation letter.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131125523
Not to mention the FBI the US supreme court other Judges all credible historians and many other actual professionals.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131109834
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131118602
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131177156

[TheDemonLord]

He has previously claimed to know more the The NZ mental health foundation.
Not to mention the FBI the US supreme court other Judges many other actual professionals.

I never said any of that - what I did say was that in the case of the NZ Mental Health foundation - they subscribe to a Woke worldview. And so certain theories as to why Men kill themselves at a higher rate than Women (also bonus point - remember when you tried to say that wasn't true, and your own data proved you wrong?) were verboten because they run counter to that worldview.

Are those theories correct? Maybe, maybe not. The Fact that they aren't allowed to be explored because they are politically incorrect is an issue.

[Stylo]

He has previously claimed to know more the The NZ mental health foundation.
Not to mention the FBI the US supreme court other Judges all credible historians and many other actual professionals.

And this Demon lord 'individual' is questionable in other areas. He claims to be on a 6 figure salary. I'd like him to prove it. With facts. Not like his Donald .

Yet he spends all of his time on social media. How does he earn his 6 figure salary he claims doing that ? He's also admitted he wasn't born in this country. If he doesn't like it, he should go back to where he came from. Tomorrow.

Houston. we have a problem. If he's what he says he is, I'd appreciate his credentials. We're not stupid.

This little man doesn't know what freedom is.

[Kickaha]

Personally - I know of several people whose mental health took a nose dive during lockdown.

Personally I know of several people whose mental health improved dramatically during lockdown, my own included, because we no longer had to deal with people in General and the world got a lot quieter

All of which has fuck all to do with you lying about the increase in suicides

You've been shown to be wrong but you're such an arrogant twat you wont admit it

deflect, deflect, deflect

[mulletman]

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/10/04/n...secutive-year/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/suicid...UTHZZ56N4ZE54/

[mulletman]

Looked like a lovely day for a walk over the AK harbour bridge

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...harbour-bridge

[FJRider]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/suicid...UTHZZ56N4ZE54/

If you look carefully ... you can see the numbers quoted in Pink (your favorite colour ??) is for ALL DHB's (reaching almost 700 deaths in 2018)... which as you can clearly see ... ARE DROPPING. And have been for the last four years.

The figures in Blue ... are the Southern DHB's ... which actually clearly show ... they have Consistently been considerably LOWER (Less than 100 deaths per year. ANY year) than NORTHERN areas.

OBVIOUSLY (as is clearly shown if you deduct the Southern death figures from that total)) ... the NORTHERN areas have a HIGHER suicide rate than the Southern areas.

The South is still a a great place to live.



A GREAT GRAPH. You backed up MY point well. WELL DONE.

THANK YOU ...

[FJRider]

The point being made, that the official stats don't have confirmed suicide data past 2018, as per your article - it's suspected suicides.

For your pleasure ... recently posted for my benefit.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/suicid...UTHZZ56N4ZE54/

As per my post to you ... the coroner's court has the final say.

Unless Police have a belief that the cause of death is other than suicide ... it is not investigated.

However ... for reasons of courtesy to the family's involved in any suicide ... the policy of the "Suspected" tag usually remains. Even with clear cut cases. Usually up to the individual Coroner to decide.

There is still a stigma with many regarding suicide. This policy is an attempt to reduce that issue.

Granted most of them will be mere formality, but suspected doesn't equal confirmed.

As explained above.

[TheDemonLord]

And this Demon lord 'individual' is questionable in other areas. He claims to be on a 6 figure salary. I'd like him to prove it. With facts. Not like his Donald

Yet he spends all of his time on social media. How does he earn his 6 figure salary he claims doing that ? He's also admitted he wasn't born in this country. If he doesn't like it, he should go back to where he came from. Tomorrow.

Houston. we have a problem. If he's what he says he is, I'd appreciate his credentials. We're not stupid.

This little man doesn't know what freedom is.

Okay then, let's suppose I produce the proof, what do you do? I'll accept a public apology, a formal retraction and a promise not to post any more xenophobic vitriol about Foreigners.

Here's a pro-tip, as an IT professional, I can type *quite* fast, most of my posts take me less than a few minutes and are actually a very good way for me to stop thinking about whatever it is I'm currently working on, so I can approach it from a different angle. Engaging different parts of the brain and all that.

[TheDemonLord]

Personally I know of several people whose mental health improved dramatically during lockdown, my own included, because we no longer had to deal with people in General and the world got a lot quieter

Okay, sure, I can believe that for some people Lockdowns were great, from the people I personally know, it ranged from tolerable to very stressful.

All of which has fuck all to do with you lying about the increase in suicides

You've been shown to be wrong but you're such an arrogant twat you wont admit it

deflect, deflect, deflect

Well, when the confirmed stats come out, we shall see.

[husaberg]

You've been shown to be wrong but you're such an arrogant twat you wont admit it

deflect, deflect, deflect

That's exactly the MO he operates under, only with endless multi quotes claiming victory.

https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*f...ToMpNlhwjw.png